Berlusconi rages at prison ruling

Jimbuna · 08-02-13, 08:19 AM

This guy really should be an entertainer on a stage...never one to give up, even when the audience have left

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Italy's former PM Silvio Berlusconi has broadcast an angry video message after his prison sentence for tax fraud was upheld by the country's highest court.
Berlusconi said he was the innocent victim of "an incredible series of accusations and trials that had nothing to do with reality".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23544129

AVGWarhawk · 08-02-13, 09:17 AM

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Berlusconi, 76, is unlikely to go to jail because of his age.

While he is expected to serve out his sentence as house arrest, he has the option of asking to do community service instead, with the deadline for the application not expected to fall until mid-October.

What is he crying about? House arrest. Community service. Sounds like retirement to me.

Betonov · 08-02-13, 09:56 AM

He shouldn't. All that ranting combined with all that viagra is sure to cause a heart attack.

Oh well, we have to give him credit. Being the top dog in Italian politics for so many years. Swimming in a pool full of sharks and stopping to have a shark fin soup once in a while

Schroeder · 08-02-13, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

This guy really should be an entertainer on a stage...never one to give up, even when the audience have left

And here is the biggest problem. The audience hasn't left. From our news here alot of Italians really believe that he is a victim of a corrupt justice system.

Jimbuna · 08-02-13, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

And here is the biggest problem. The audience hasn't left. From our news here alot of Italians really believe that he is a victim of a corrupt justice system.

Now that's a nice spin to put on it.

What have your people done to deserve such silly treatment?

STEED · 08-02-13, 01:40 PM

Give him a ton of porn that should shut him up.

Schroeder · 08-02-13, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Now that's a nice spin to put on it.

What have your people done to deserve such silly treatment?

I didn't say that people here believe it. It's just that Berlusconi's propaganda machinery is portraying him as a victim and many people in Italy believe that (or so our media says).

Jimbuna · 08-02-13, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Give him a ton of porn that should shut him up.

At least until the effects of the Viagra lapse

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

I didn't say that people here believe it. It's just that Berlusconi's propaganda machinery is portraying him as a victim and many people in Italy believe that (or so our media says).

Yeah I know what you meant my friend

Sailor Steve · 08-02-13, 04:54 PM

My friend Rocky used to say that Italian politicians invented corruption. My guess is this guy stayed on top for has long as he did because he was better at it than the others. Now his opponents used the corrupt system to finally get the better of him, and he should consider himself lucky to be alive to complain about it.

Of course there's always the long chance that the courts aren't corrupt and he got caught for real...

Skybird · 08-03-13, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What have your people done to deserve such silly treatment?

Being silly themselves.

There are no victims here. Only active doers and accomplices. Italians fall for Berlsuconi. Germans fall for Merkel & Gang. IGreeks fall for the same corrupt gangster politicians that have corrupted their country since decades, just look at the names in current cabinet and parliament - the same damn breed: and is it different anywhere in EUpistan?.

Compare this, this politician is popular because he demaneds that greece should not change and reform itself, but should be left as it is, and the North should eternally pay for it, and he is obsessed with comparing present Germans with Nazi invaders:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-913721.html

The whole interview was documented in German papers, even before that fifth question he already started to mess it up. The interviewer was 100% right in his claims, and 100% okay in the way he behaved and set up his questions. It's just that Tsipras claims the right not to be quoted with the stupid hate-dripping bull he is producing so often. If he would be in power, he would not be different than Berlusconi. And Berlusconi, like Tsirpas, also is not shy to link the germans to claims they are Nazi until today who want to take over Italy.

And Germany, and all over the EU: the people let their polticians do like they do, and even bring them into powers, and obey them. Most of them even vote for them although thex admit when being asked that they know that those they are voting for, have lied to them and will do so again: "But maybe, this time it will be different", they say. "And how else should one vote?" By which they imply: whom else should we vote if not liars and cheater, gangsters, and criminals robbing us the skin off our bodies? I am against a general right to elections for this reason, amongst others. Stupidity votes stupidity and ruthlessness into office. I must not be tolerant of that. Churchill: "the best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with just any voter".

There are no victims, except the children maybe. Only doers, and accomplices. We all are guilty of tolerance, passivity and non-rebellion. If we were serious about defending our freedom and property, we would grab weapons and hang politicians and lobbyists by the lamp masts in the streets throughout Europe instead of voting for them.

BrucePartington · 08-03-13, 08:20 AM

@ Skybird. I share your view. People are responsible for voting robber barons back in. People seem to have memory problems.
I have been thinking about this problem, and a big one it is.

I don't know about other countries, but in mine, if 50/100 of the votes in ballots are blank, the Constitution dictates that a new round is in order. And the candidates listed for each party in the first round MUST be left out.
If our people could be rallied to do this, we would catch them off guard, and upset their agendas.
Of course, new candidates would probably be apprentices of the former, but it would be a step in the right direction at dismounting this class overwhelmingly corrupt.

From time to time, some good, competent and honest people come along, but as soon as they show they are there to do the right thing for the common good, they are marked to be side-railed.

This would be a good plan, since it is good use of the law, and is non-violent.
Failling this, well...

the_tyrant · 08-03-13, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Being silly themselves.

There are no victims here. Only active doers and accomplices. Italians fall for Berlsuconi. Germans fall for Merkel & Gang. IGreeks fall for the same corrupt gangster politicians that have corrupted their country since decades, just look at the names in current cabinet and parliament - the same damn breed: and is it different anywhere in EUpistan?.

Compare this, this politician is popular because he demaneds that greece should not change and reform itself, but should be left as it is, and the North should eternally pay for it, and he is obsessed with comparing present Germans with Nazi invaders:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-913721.html

The whole interview was documented in German papers, even before that fifth question he already started to mess it up. The interviewer was 100% right in his claims, and 100% okay in the way he behaved and set up his questions. It's just that Tsipras claims the right not to be quoted with the stupid hate-dripping bull he is producing so often. If he would be in power, he would not be different than Berlusconi. And Berlusconi, like Tsirpas, also is not shy to link the germans to claims they are Nazi until today who want to take over Italy.

And Germany, and all over the EU: the people let their polticians do like they do, and even bring them into powers, and obey them. Most of them even vote for them although thex admit when being asked that they know that those they are voting for, have lied to them and will do so again: "But maybe, this time it will be different", they say. "And how else should one vote?" By which they imply: whom else should we vote if not liars and cheater, gangsters, and criminals robbing us the skin off our bodies? I am against a general right to elections for this reason, amongst others. Stupidity votes stupidity and ruthlessness into office. I must not be tolerant of that. Churchill: "the best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with just any voter".

There are no victims, except the children maybe. Only doers, and accomplices. We all are guilty of tolerance, passivity and non-rebellion. If we were serious about defending our freedom and property, we would grab weapons and hang politicians and lobbyists by the lamp masts in the streets throughout Europe instead of voting for them.

How can the Italians blame the Nazies? They were fascist too!

Hell, Mussolini worked in a delightfully evil building:

Schroeder · 08-03-13, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

How can the Italians blame the Nazies? They were fascist too!

Because pointing fingers at Germany and shouting "Nazis" is all the rage in some countries right now...especially those with big self made problems...

Feuer Frei! · 08-03-13, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Because pointing fingers at Germany and shouting "Nazis" is all the rage in some countries...and has been for many years

Fixed that.

Herr-Berbunch · 08-03-13, 10:42 AM

Every country has its national socialists, they just don't call them Nazis.

Berlusconi is just an aged buffoon who's been caught so many times and got away with it before - that's what grates him so much.

Still, under potential house arrest he can still procure young girls for bunga-bunga parties!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Give him a ton of porn that should shut him up. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	My friend Rocky used to say that Italian politicians invented corruption. My guess is this guy stayed on top for has long as he did because he was better at it than the others. Now his opponents used the corrupt system to finally get the better of him, and he should consider himself lucky to be alive to complain about it. Of course there's always the long chance that the courts aren't corrupt and he got caught for real... __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-03-13, 10:42 AM	#15
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Every country has its national socialists, they just don't call them Nazis. Berlusconi is just an aged buffoon who's been caught so many times and got away with it before - that's what grates him so much. Still, under potential house arrest he can still procure young girls for bunga-bunga parties! __________________

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	He shouldn't. All that ranting combined with all that viagra is sure to cause a heart attack. Oh well, we have to give him credit. Being the top dog in Italian politics for so many years. Swimming in a pool full of sharks and stopping to have a shark fin soup once in a while

08-03-13, 08:20 AM	#11
BrucePartington XO Join Date: May 2013 Location: KM AM99 Posts: 405 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	@ Skybird. I share your view. People are responsible for voting robber barons back in. People seem to have memory problems. I have been thinking about this problem, and a big one it is. I don't know about other countries, but in mine, if 50/100 of the votes in ballots are blank, the Constitution dictates that a new round is in order. And the candidates listed for each party in the first round MUST be left out. If our people could be rallied to do this, we would catch them off guard, and upset their agendas. Of course, new candidates would probably be apprentices of the former, but it would be a step in the right direction at dismounting this class overwhelmingly corrupt. From time to time, some good, competent and honest people come along, but as soon as they show they are there to do the right thing for the common good, they are marked to be side-railed. This would be a good plan, since it is good use of the law, and is non-violent. Failling this, well...