Best Flight simulator?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

X-plane are all 'were used by company X, Y, and Z' including Lockheed Martin. That confuses me a bit when LM have Prepar3d.

Seems like everything is owned by Boeing in some way anyway.

P3D is not a bad sim at all. I'd buy it.

[Herr-Berbunch]

If I didn't have FSX it'd be higher on my list, not that I use FSX much nowadays.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

If I didn't have FSX it'd be higher on my list, not that I use FSX much nowadays.

I should look at getting FSX.

I was able to run the demo just fine. I'm currently a FS2004 man. And my childhood was full of playing that, FS2002, CFS3, and various Star Wars games.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Don't get it until you've a decent rig to run it on. FSX is a notorious CPU hog and 2.2 GHz and crappy card (no offence) will make you wish you hadn't bothered.

All my posts replying to you recently all seem to add up to the same conclusion. Sell a kidney and spend the money wisely.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

X-plane are all 'were used by company X, Y, and Z' including Lockheed Martin. That confuses me a bit when LM have Prepar3d.

You seem to mistake it a bit. LM does not say they use it for advertiozing or just show it around - thex actively optimised the code left by MS and tweak it to make better use of more modern hardware. They actively develope the code and platform, and established a business model for the professional versions of it. It looks like FSX, but it performs much better, therefore, and also many people for whom FSx was unstable und who were unable to even run it now report that P3D gives them a stable, smooth experience - with graphics maxed out and frames as high as with FS9 on modern hardware.

That'S why I say P3D is the way to go. Aerosoft is the world'S biggest distributor of flightsim stuff now, and when they have embarked on P3D and give it special info service for their products, and new reeases explicitly advertise with being P3D compatible, this should serve as a hint for you. These days you do not buy FSX anymore, you buy P3D. On the same rig: same looks olike FSX, but much better performance, using modern hardware, optimised code, closed holes that MS did not care for.

This is especially important considering that FSX still uses only one core, and has that damn inbuilt 3.9 GB RAM limit (your 64Bit OS has nothing to do with that, the sim just cannot use more than 3.9 or 3.7 GB, it is 32 Bit hardcoded).

Considering that even latest systems can barely handle FSX with visuals maxed out and many addons running, these improvements are vital, I'd say. With PMDG and weather and airport addons, I do not even bother install a decent traffic addon oin my FSX, for example. With P3D, I would be very optimistic that my rig could handle thzat additionally, too. When running FSX now, halöf of my RAM stays unused (8GB), and two of four cores are almost idle), the third runs Windows and other stuff, the foruth runs FSX plus addons. Should not be like that. But you can solve that only with P3D.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Don't get it until you've a decent rig to run it on. FSX is a notorious CPU hog and 2.2 GHz and crappy card (no offence) will make you wish you hadn't bothered.

All my posts replying to you recently all seem to add up to the same conclusion. Sell a kidney and spend the money wisely.

How was I able to run the FSX demo then?

[Skybird]

You're a zombie, apparently, that's how.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You're a zombie, apparently, that's how.

Wow....I was not aware of that.

Thanks Skybird!

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Was gifted B-17 Flying Fortress The Mighty Eighth on GoG today.

I love how in-depth and detailed this sim is. I can't wait to play it. It'll probably be around tomorrow... I played a trial of it at one point. This is going to suck up a lot of my time in the coming weeks. Nothing better than a complete simulation of my favorite bomber of all time.

Thanks Raptor1 and that generous 3$*

*Again...I cannot repay you by selling my soul.

[mapuc]

@ Skybird, Even I have dl the FSX demo and it runs smoothly even though I just have a 64 Mb graphic card and about 2 Ghz cpu.

@ Red, how could I forget that game B-17 a great game I played it on my old
Win 98. It have been awhile since I dropped bombs on Berlin.

Looking for a demo or trail of Prepar3D

Markus

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by mapuc

@ Red, how could I forget that game B-17 a great game I played it on my old
Win 98. It have been awhile since I dropped bombs on Berlin.

Was it TME or was it the original? I have the original one on DOSBox but it was always unplayable because of the difficulty, graphics, and no manual. I've been reading the manual for TME for a while now.

Looking for a demo or trail of Prepar3D

If you find one, send me the link.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Sky - I didn't say that LM use it for advertising, X-plane highlight that their users include Nasa and LM amongst others.

[Skybird]

I misinterpreted then what you said. I thought you meant that P3D was just another way to say "our fabulous sim is used by the pros like LM!"

Seems to have been completely my own fault, sorry.

Mapuc, what are your ingame graphcis settings and options, resolution, cloud options? AI traffic? I do not assume you use heavy addon airports? PMDG aircraft modules? When I launch FSX, I have external weather, external weather control, external airport modules, external aircraft modules, external landscape modelling.

And when I had a Pentium 4 at 2.8 GHz in 2007 and first time bought FSX then, I had stuttery performance on even low resolution and details. I then decided to engage for years to come on FS2004 instead. Just two years ago or so I migrated to FSX, mainly because of the PMDG737NGX.

If you want to use complex addon stuff - and without that FSX to me is not worth much, but is a simple toy only - you need a system not only running the base installation well, but has resources left to spend for that addon stuff. The default planes just do not compare to good addon planes. The default airports, even the highly detailed ones, do not compare to good airport addons. The default weather does not compare to good weather addons' rendering and visualization.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Was it TME or was it the original? I have the original one on DOSBox but it was always unplayable because of the difficulty, graphics, and no manual. I've been reading the manual for TME for a while now.



If you find one, send me the link.

If I'm not remembering it wrong, it came in a box-Like SHII. The disc was in a hard cd cover and there was a manual - How to install, missions campaign(s) and wich keys to steer the Mighty B-17( I had a little joystick with only one button)

When you wrote "The original one on DOSbox, I had to make a search, because I started to wonder if it was the original game I had(I bougth in one of our local computer store

Here are what I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-17_F...The_Mighty_8th

I bought my copy in 2004-5 for a very cheap dime.

Markus

[Dowly]

You can buy TME from GoG.com for $5.99:
http://www.gog.com/gamecard/b_17_fly...the_mighty_8th

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Mapuc, what are your ingame graphcis settings and options, resolution, cloud options? AI traffic? I do not assume you use heavy addon airports? PMDG aircraft modules? When I launch FSX, I have external weather, external weather control, external airport modules, external aircraft modules, external landscape modelling.

I have a very weak ingame computer, so the game I'm going to buy has to be at the lowest settings but that's only to the day I get a better computer. A stationary and not like now a laptop.

Guess I was a little to fast when asking wich flight sims is the best, maybe I should have got a MUCH better computer before asking.

Markus