German drone almost collided with Afghan Airbus

Herr-Berbunch · 06-02-13, 02:12 PM

I'm guessing there was no graffiti on the Airbus?

Penguin · 06-03-13, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I'm guessing there was no graffiti on the Airbus?

I hope they shot some of those damned Taliban with spraycans before they could do any damage...

Herr-Berbunch · 06-03-13, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

I hope they shot some of those damned Taliban with spraycans before they could do any damage...

I'm glad somebody got the joke, even if it was you.

Penguin · 06-03-13, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I'm glad somebody got the joke, even if it was you.

You got me: I cheated. I just rang the German Ministry of Humor, Unpunctuality and Recreation to explain it to me. Its only employee told me "zis is no laughing matter!".
Thanks to you, now I have to go to the reeducation camp, this means biting into lemons all day - though i hope I won't become a limey.

Herr-Berbunch · 06-03-13, 08:59 AM

At least you won't get scurvy.

Stealhead · 06-03-13, 02:24 PM

Do not be so fast to discredit 5.56mm as a cartridge Skybird it is a very effective round.Your German hunters must be horrible shots because many American hunters use 5.56mm against boar and ours are much much larger and more aggressive.

It is all in how the round is applied under the correct circumstances it is very effective as a combat cartridge.The G36 has other design flaws not caused by the cartridge.

Skybird · 06-03-13, 02:40 PM

I only quoted or base on reports based on Bundeswehr, police and hunter assessment. When the Bundeswehr says the G36 after 3 magazines shot empty sprays so much that hitting somethign with it, not mentioning: man-stop-power, becomes a serious concern, then I dare to conclude even as a niovice that there is a problem. Even under normal firing coinditions, wind seems to be of more a concern than should be the case for the infantries primnary AR. The bullet for the cartridge they say weighs only, if I recall correctly, 4gr or 5gr. A 7.62 has 8 gr, I think I recall. Well, wind and weight and velocity - there is an inevitable interrelation between these three, you just cannot sneak around the elemental rules of physics.

Note that the internal tests of the Bundeswehr warned of the weapon's poor performance from early on, the according office seems to have recommended to not buy it in that state. It is under examination why these warnings were ignored and never heard of again, corruption seems to have been the case.

But the criterion that decides it for me is what gets reported by the German troops who field the weapon and ammo in Afghanistan. And they say its porked and has brought them very often now into critical situation, it seems, too little punch, too short legs, too little precision. With that kind of feedback, the decisive verdict has been delivered. The Wehrbeauftragte - and earlier last year I think the Generalinspekteur der Bundeswehr as well, but my memory may fail me there - said something like that he got "dozens and dozens" of complaints from Afghanistan. The ministry is up in arms against him now. Assuming he counted correctly, he just does his job - on behalf of the lives and physical wellbeing of the troops that were sent there.

Schroeder · 06-03-13, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Your German hunters must be horrible shots because many American hunters use 5.56mm against boar and ours are much much larger and more aggressive.

You aren't allowed to hunt boars with that bullet here. It's a legal thing and has nothing to do with our hunters.

em2nought · 06-03-13, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I'm glad somebody got the joke, even if it was you.

Trying to make jokes in a German thread.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,676 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I only quoted or base on reports based on Bundeswehr, police and hunter assessment. When the Bundeswehr says the G36 after 3 magazines shot empty sprays so much that hitting somethign with it, not mentioning: man-stop-power, becomes a serious concern, then I dare to conclude even as a niovice that there is a problem. Even under normal firing coinditions, wind seems to be of more a concern than should be the case for the infantries primnary AR. The bullet for the cartridge they say weighs only, if I recall correctly, 4gr or 5gr. A 7.62 has 8 gr, I think I recall. Well, wind and weight and velocity - there is an inevitable interrelation between these three, you just cannot sneak around the elemental rules of physics. Note that the internal tests of the Bundeswehr warned of the weapon's poor performance from early on, the according office seems to have recommended to not buy it in that state. It is under examination why these warnings were ignored and never heard of again, corruption seems to have been the case. But the criterion that decides it for me is what gets reported by the German troops who field the weapon and ammo in Afghanistan. And they say its porked and has brought them very often now into critical situation, it seems, too little punch, too short legs, too little precision. With that kind of feedback, the decisive verdict has been delivered. The Wehrbeauftragte - and earlier last year I think the Generalinspekteur der Bundeswehr as well, but my memory may fail me there - said something like that he got "dozens and dozens" of complaints from Afghanistan. The ministry is up in arms against him now. Assuming he counted correctly, he just does his job - on behalf of the lives and physical wellbeing of the troops that were sent there. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Do not be so fast to discredit 5.56mm as a cartridge Skybird it is a very effective round.Your German hunters must be horrible shots because many American hunters use 5.56mm against boar and ours are much much larger and more aggressive. It is all in how the round is applied under the correct circumstances it is very effective as a combat cartridge.The G36 has other design flaws not caused by the cartridge.