Murder in London

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Armistead

All religions have radical aspects, but not all religions are radical, Islam is radical! No doubt Christianity was as bad for most it's history and I dread to think where it would be had not secular law became rule. I recall a pastor years ago that stated he wished he could start a "kill a queer for Christ" program. He was a known Baptist evangelist through the SE. Sure, he said it with a laugh, but who says such crap without first having the thought.

You just proved my point actually.I do not think that you realize that you did but you did....23.4% or about 1 billion humans are Muslims if the majority(hell it would not even take a majority if even 20% of Muslims where radicals) where violent radicals we would not be having this conversation right now we'd be praying towards Mecca seeing that we are not praying towards Mecca clearly displays that most Muslims are not in line with the extremists if they where they would literately overwhelm us.

[eddie]

I think they handled the whole situation just fine. I feel sorry for the family of that soldier.

Now, the UK should take that goofy cleric, that they have been spending so much money trying to deport, and let that special police unit handle him the same way. One bullet is cheaper then all those court costs,lol

[BossMark]

Originally Posted by eddie

Now, the UK should take that goofy cleric, that they have been spending so much money trying to deport, and let that special police unit handle him the same way. One bullet is cheaper then all those court costs,lol

Yes a lot easier and cheaper simply to put a bullet in its head

[BossMark]

A BBC newsreader said last night "We need to say the man pictured in that VT is one of the alleged attackers in the Woolwich attack on a British solider"

Yes it's important we don't jump to any conclusions that the guy holding a machete covered in blood telling us why he did it is guilty.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by BossMark

A BBC newsreader said last night "We need to say the man pictured in that VT is one of the alleged attackers in the Woolwich attack on a British solider"

Yes it's important we don't jump to any conclusions that the guy holding a machete covered in blood telling us why he did it is guilty.

I hate it when they say stuff like that. If we had the actual mauling on tape they'd say the same....

And then they'd have to confirm that it was the same guy.

[Jimbuna]

These are the two 'suspects'...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22636624

I believe two 29 year olds (a male and a female) have also been arrested on the grounds of conspiracy to commit murder...

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-...olice-station/

[kranz]

Just watched a short footage ( in Polish only :<) on how CNN and some British station cut out fragments in which the black guy talks about Koran, Islam and his inspirations.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

You just proved my point actually.I do not think that you realize that you did but you did....23.4% or about 1 billion humans are Muslims if the majority(hell it would not even take a majority if even 20% of Muslims where radicals) where violent radicals we would not be having this conversation right now we'd be praying towards Mecca seeing that we are not praying towards Mecca clearly displays that most Muslims are not in line with the extremists if they where they would literately overwhelm us.

The fact is radical Islam has overwhelmed many parts of the world, from the Mid-East, Africa, parts of Eastern Europe. It's the uneducated poor man's religion, ran by smarter educated leaders. Sure, there is a softer brand of Islam in secular nations.

I don't agree if all of Islam went radical we would all be praying to Mecca.
If you saw Islam go totally radical in America, acts of random terror, the American people wouldn't wait for the government to solve the problem, nor would most of the cultured nations of the world. If anything, it would lead to the extinction of Islam.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The fact is radical Islam has overwhelmed many parts of the world, from the Mid-East, Africa, parts of Eastern Europe.


I don't agree if all of Islam went radical we would all be praying to Mecca.
If you saw Islam go totally radical in America, acts of random terror, the American people wouldn't wait for the government to solve the problem, nor would most of the cultured nations of the world. If anything, it would lead to the extinction of Islam.

On your first part I disagree if radical Islam where the majority control in these regions then you would not see the violence and unrest caused by extremist groups.The entire reason these regions see this problem is because the extremists are not in the majority and they are trying to use terror to force other Muslims to have fear and agree with the extremists.Most of the problems in these regions the root cause is poor government more so than religion.Radical Islam is certainly a problem in some regions but in very few has it overwhelmed and it never will overwhelm because it is a fringe movement.

Look at Egypt for example much of the population is displeased with the Muslim Brotherhood.Al-Qaeda for example they have killed more Shiite Muslims than they have any other group of people.They hate Muslims that do not agree with their views as much as if not more than any other group.

On your second point your just are a bit over confident if the majority of Muslims where extremists they would be able to take total control over many regions and have enough manpower that resorting to terrorist acts would not be necessary.They would simply overwhelm those that disagree.

Discussing the topic further is a moot point I'd say as you are not going to convince me on your views and I'm not going to convince you on mine.