Murder in London

[STEED]

One thing I have noticed when such acts are carried out Western Muslim spokespersons keep saying Islam is a peaceful religion but are they taking that view point from the lay back flabby westerner? As clearly the Eastern view point is rather the opposite.

[BossMark]

Originally Posted by STEED

One thing I have noticed when such acts are carried out Western Muslim spokespersons keep saying Islam is a peaceful religion but are they taking that view point from the lay back flabby westerner? As clearly the Eastern view point is rather the opposite.

Islam is about as peaceful as Jimmy Savile in a children's hospital.

[Armistead]

One of these days we'll admit Islam isn't a religion of peace, but a religion of hate, bias and murder.

[Skybird]

One thing I have noticed when such acts are carried out Western Muslim spokespersons keep saying Islam is a peaceful religion but are they taking that view point from the lay back flabby westerner?

As long as this precious silent majority of peaceful, tolerant, integrating Muslims remains silent and inactive in the face of hate preachers and selfish lobbyists and clergymen and only pay lip confessions but no enforcing actions to isolate them and get rid of them and throw them out and deny them to hide behind the passive "majority" that is claimed - only claimed! - to disagree with them;

as long as they pay lip confessions at best in condemning such acts of intolerance hate, violence or violence against women and girls, then return to their passivity and inactivity again;

as long as their first and only worry - when the crime statistics show how overrepresented by several factors Muslim migrants are in many branches of crime statistics: from locals-mobbing to rape, from street violence to theft - is to call it "racism" and "offence" and that organising statistics in such a way that they allow to identify which groups of persons are represented to what degree in statistical categories (which is an substantial information in crime statistics I would say: to learn and make known the identities and origin of somebody committing serious crimes);

as long as galloping antisemitic racism is typical for overwhelming majorities of them, leading the vast majority of them to behavior and statements making it clear they would not even live door to door with a Jew in a European country, and to significant levels also do not wish to have much to do with the local population of their hosting nation;

as long as they allow the above mentioned and acting terrorists alike to define the image of their precious peaceful, tolerant ideology with their hate and violence and intolerance;

as long as they do not actively engage in banning, isolating, making known and throwing out "extremists" and criminal integration-refusers in their middle, instead allow their leaders to blackmail the state until it agrees to warn "community leaders" hours in advance before they arrest Muslim criminals or extremists or suspects;

as long as third- and fourth-generation offspring from immigrant families become more conservative and religious than their grandparents have ever been;

as long as they remain silent and shut up over the immense amounts of enforced marriages, violence against wifes and daughters, female circumcision, denial of rights to women, sharia parallel law in Western states:

as long as all this^ is so, I think your point does not really matter. Since fourty years and more we wait now that they integrate, reform Islam, and by majority truly "arrive" in their new "homes" and learn the rules. Instead, all we got in these years is bullying, hate, demanding ever more, violence, and a growing willingness amongst the young to even use force to turn the West Islamic and destroy our countries and their constitutional basis.

Arguments there have been enough : fourty years and more. Negotiations there have been enough: fourty years and more. Display of our good willingness and tolerance and patience there have been enough: fourty years and more. Giving in to their demands while they refuse reciprocity in their acting, both in their original home countries and in the West: we have done it long enough, since over fourty years. It'S time to get out the big club and show it to them and tell them very clearly and without any further negotiating: either you now fall into line and learn our rules and fully embrace them, or you pack your things and get the hell out of Europe, and America.

So he isn't a muslim immigrant then.
He is british born church going christian who recently converted and joined up with Anjem Choudray and his couple of dozen muppets.
Kinda makes all this blah blah Muslim immigrants stuff into pure nonsense doesn't it.