Deadly tornado strikes Texas town of Granbury

Armistead · 05-20-13, 09:17 PM

So sad about the school and the loss of so many children.

desertstriker · 05-20-13, 11:45 PM

has anybody else noticed that weather is getting increasingly more severe during the past 5 years?

Also Moore was hit by a reported at least a 2 miles wide tornado.

GoldenRivet · 05-21-13, 01:26 AM

past 5 years?

longest path for a tornado... 1917

deadliest in the USA... 1925

greatest damage to structures... 1896

not just tornadoes, the deadliest hurricane took place in 1900

its a matter of more data being recorded more readily and more quickly, not some apocalyptic weather change

desertstriker · 05-21-13, 01:32 AM

I am just saying I have noticed more wacky weather in the past 5 years mind you i really only started caring about the weather in the past 7

but still things seem to be changing and acting weird than from my childhood memories

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sorry should have changed severe wacky but didn't in the my first post

Feuer Frei! · 05-21-13, 01:39 AM

If we are only talking in the US, then in particular the last 2 years has been very severe.
Two record heat waves, an historic drought, above-average destructive wildfires, and two powerful hurricanes that slammed into the East Coast.
In 2012, the U.S. experienced the most extreme year for weather ever recorded, according to NOAA’s Climate Extremes Index.

Growing number of weather extremes are a strong indication of climate change.
These 2 studies confirm the increase in severities, which are directly impacting the USA:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...53268/abstract

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v.../ngeo1590.html

So, he would be right in assuming that weather severities have increased. Over 5 years? Longer than that.

Oberon · 05-21-13, 03:51 AM

Well we've got a significant amount of CO2 in the atmosphere now, an amount not seen for 4.5 million years when the Earth was a very different place. So the weather systems are going to change to adapt to the new conditions of the atmosphere. It's not likely to happen overnight, there's a lag-time of an unknown period of years where the weather is going to change before it stabilises, that's if, of course, the amount of CO2 stabilises which at its current rate it isn't, and indeed, by the 2040s we could be looking at 450-500ppm of CO2, which hasn't been seen for a very very long time and would not be a good thing at all.

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-21-13, 09:07 AM

Am heartbroken for Moore, Oklahoma... especially for the parents and teachers of all those poor dead children.

Now it looks like east Texas will be in the storm crosshairs later today. The conditions are right for the tornado outbreak to continue.

mookiemookie · 05-21-13, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by desertstriker

has anybody else noticed that weather is getting increasingly more severe during the past 5 years?

Yes.

Those poor people in Oklahoma. I can't imagine losing everything in a blink of an eye. I hope they had good insurance. And the ones that lost family and friends...my heart goes out to them definitely.

Jimbuna · 05-21-13, 12:01 PM

Couldn't believe how those children died

soopaman2 · 05-21-13, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Couldn't believe how those children died

Sadly is was most likely due to blunt force trauma, either by falling rubble or being picked up and slammed by 200+ mph (320+ KMH) winds.

Nothing survives these, you can google up pics of drinking straws being rammed clean into trees, and remaining intact. It just shows the power, and how helpless we are as humans on this planet.

Jimbuna · 05-21-13, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

Sadly is was most likely due to blunt force trauma, either by falling rubble or being picked up and slammed by 200+ mph (320+ KMH) winds.

Nothing survives these, you can google up pics of drinking straws being rammed clean into trees, and remaining intact. It just shows the power, and how helpless we are as humans on this planet.

The news broadcast I saw reckoned they were trapped by debris from the collapsed roof then drowned from water spewing out of the broken water mains.

soopaman2 · 05-21-13, 12:29 PM

Either way it is a tearjerker.

Both methods (pardon my bluntness) are horrid, and most likely you know what is going on as it happens.

Those people though. I mean everyone concentrates on the kids, but thier pain is gone, the poor parents though

That will stay with them forever, no matter what, as ireparable trauma to thier psyche.

The dead are free, the living still feel, and my condolences on the parents and family. Genuinely

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	past 5 years? longest path for a tornado... 1917 deadliest in the USA... 1925 greatest damage to structures... 1896 not just tornadoes, the deadliest hurricane took place in 1900 its a matter of more data being recorded more readily and more quickly, not some apocalyptic weather change __________________

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desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	I am just saying I have noticed more wacky weather in the past 5 years mind you i really only started caring about the weather in the past 7 but still things seem to be changing and acting weird than from my childhood memories. sorry should have changed severe wacky but didn't in the my first post

05-21-13, 01:39 AM	#5
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	If we are only talking in the US, then in particular the last 2 years has been very severe. Two record heat waves, an historic drought, above-average destructive wildfires, and two powerful hurricanes that slammed into the East Coast. In 2012, the U.S. experienced the most extreme year for weather ever recorded, according to NOAA’s Climate Extremes Index. Growing number of weather extremes are a strong indication of climate change. These 2 studies confirm the increase in severities, which are directly impacting the USA: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...53268/abstract http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v.../ngeo1590.html So, he would be right in assuming that weather severities have increased. Over 5 years? Longer than that. __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

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Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,996 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Am heartbroken for Moore, Oklahoma... especially for the parents and teachers of all those poor dead children. Now it looks like east Texas will be in the storm crosshairs later today. The conditions are right for the tornado outbreak to continue. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

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desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	has anybody else noticed that weather is getting increasingly more severe during the past 5 years? Also Moore was hit by a reported at least a 2 miles wide tornado.

05-21-13, 03:51 AM	#6
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well we've got a significant amount of CO2 in the atmosphere now, an amount not seen for 4.5 million years when the Earth was a very different place. So the weather systems are going to change to adapt to the new conditions of the atmosphere. It's not likely to happen overnight, there's a lag-time of an unknown period of years where the weather is going to change before it stabilises, that's if, of course, the amount of CO2 stabilises which at its current rate it isn't, and indeed, by the 2040s we could be looking at 450-500ppm of CO2, which hasn't been seen for a very very long time and would not be a good thing at all.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Couldn't believe how those children died __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Either way it is a tearjerker. Both methods (pardon my bluntness) are horrid, and most likely you know what is going on as it happens. Those people though. I mean everyone concentrates on the kids, but thier pain is gone, the poor parents though That will stay with them forever, no matter what, as ireparable trauma to thier psyche. The dead are free, the living still feel, and my condolences on the parents and family. Genuinely __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.