What concerns you most about SHO?

Takeda Shingen · 05-09-13, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by desertstriker

But ubi cant do it without the subsim.com community because what we say will matter. if we all hate the game thats ALOT of people saying it is garbage. why did they invite onkel neal down and give his thoughts? Ubi is targeting a larger community you are right there but how many of that outer target will stick with the game? probably not alot because they don't have the patience for the genre.

They already are doing it without this community's blessing. They're not counting on us, they are counting on a WoT style cash-in. The problem is that SHO will almost certainly be nowhere as good as WoT.

Julhelm · 05-09-13, 01:53 PM

If you ever bothered to look on the games facebook page, for instance, the majority of comments there seem to be in the positive, with the exception of the very early once around the time the game was revealed.

Takeda Shingen · 05-09-13, 02:08 PM

Must have been a good game, then.

Julhelm · 05-09-13, 02:44 PM

I wouldn't know, since I haven't played it. The people who follow it on facebook certainly seem to like what they see. It's not being made for you or me so whether we like it or not is of little concern.

GoldenRivet · 05-09-13, 04:40 PM

i would like to point out that a number of comments at the ubi forums and on the facebook page that could be in any way construed as negative are sumarily removed by the management

Ubi is very very strict with their information and opinion control, especially pre release

desertstriker · 05-09-13, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i would like to point out that a number of comments at the ubi forums and on the facebook page that could be in any way construed as negative are sumarily removed by the management

Ubi is very very strict with their information and opinion control, especially pre release

yeah they banned me from the SHO facebook

Vince82 · 05-09-13, 05:50 PM

So Ubi are communists after all?

I better not post this on facebook, hehe.

himmelreiter · 05-10-13, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Julhelm

I wouldn't know, since I haven't played it. The people who follow it on facebook certainly seem to like what they see. It's not being made for you or me so whether we like it or not is of little concern.

I don't give a penny on FB based opinions anyway, but you made the point: judge it after you played! And: Judge it with the right expectations in mind. This is not a submarine hardcore simulation like SH3 + mods. I'm testing closed beta since February and know it very well. IMHO it is just a SH related online game which simple missions can be played in half an hour at home time. But you can also choose a heavy escorted convoy and enjoy a multi play of a few hours chatting with the community. Just for fun, nothing serious.

B_O_L_T · 05-13-13, 11:13 PM

All the negativity and ignorance on f2p is a sad indictment of this community; it is the largest growing sector of the gaming market along with the increase in games for portable devices.

I too have been here since the start, my first exposure to computer gaming was playing tic tac toe using punched cards on the mainframe at my father’s workplace. My first personal computer, the zx80 kit I purchased and built back in 1980, and my first naval game, Gato on the Apple. However, it would seem unlike a large proportion of this community, I have also actively played a number of free to play titles and invested money in those I found interesting, and realise the value and exposure these sorts of titles bring to the table.

As I said in another thread, every sub simmer should be hoping SHO does well; without games like SHO increasing exposure of the genre to new generations of gamers, no developer will be willing to invest time or money into more serious titles. For good and bad, UBI has been the only developer willing to invest and take a risk on the genre for a very long time. Without continued interest, the efforts of communities like subsim will be for naught, and the genre could well disappear altogether.

Even if you have no interest in SHO at all; if you have any interest in the continued presence of sub sims in the market the last thing you should be doing is posting negative comments about the game. As they used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all; and it happens to be sound advice.

desertstriker · 05-14-13, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by B_O_L_T

All the negativity and ignorance on f2p is a sad indictment of this community; it is the largest growing sector of the gaming market along with the increase in games for portable devices.

I too have been here since the start, my first exposure to computer gaming was playing tic tac toe using punched cards on the mainframe at my father’s workplace. My first personal computer, the zx80 kit I purchased and built back in 1980, and my first naval game, Gato on the Apple. However, it would seem unlike a large proportion of this community, I have also actively played a number of free to play titles and invested money in those I found interesting, and realize the value and exposure these sorts of titles bring to the table.

As I said in another thread, every sub simmer should be hoping SHO does well; without games like SHO increasing exposure of the genre to new generations of gamers, no developer will be willing to invest time or money into more serious titles. For good and bad, UBI has been the only developer willing to invest and take a risk on the genre for a very long time. Without continued interest, the efforts of communities like subsim will be for naught, and the genre could well disappear altogether.

Even if you have no interest in SHO at all; if you have any interest in the continued presence of sub sims in the market the last thing you should be doing is posting negative comments about the game. As they used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all; and it happens to be sound advice.

its not that we don't respect f2p its just that ubi is doing it and has made increasingly bad subsims, and if patterns hold true SHO will be buggy beyond buggy (and we have no proof this is not the case).
now while ubi is the only corporation to make a subsim for a while they have increasingly spat on the consumer by releasing unfinished games and leaving it to our hard working modders to fix their SNAFU. now they have made it so not even our modders will be able to fix SHO.

I think most are just being pessimistically optimistic about SHO and retain some hope. however this game could also be final rivet in the Iron coffin

for the genre if it doesn't pan out

05-09-13, 04:40 PM	#5
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,718 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i would like to point out that a number of comments at the ubi forums and on the facebook page that could be in any way construed as negative are sumarily removed by the management Ubi is very very strict with their information and opinion control, especially pre release __________________

05-09-13, 05:50 PM	#7
Vince82 Engineer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 216 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	So Ubi are communists after all? I better not post this on facebook, hehe. Last edited by Vince82; 05-10-13 at 08:09 AM.

05-09-13, 01:53 PM	#2
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 690 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	If you ever bothered to look on the games facebook page, for instance, the majority of comments there seem to be in the positive, with the exception of the very early once around the time the game was revealed.

05-09-13, 02:08 PM	#3
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Must have been a good game, then.

05-09-13, 02:44 PM	#4
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 690 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't know, since I haven't played it. The people who follow it on facebook certainly seem to like what they see. It's not being made for you or me so whether we like it or not is of little concern.

05-13-13, 11:13 PM	#9
B_O_L_T Seaman Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 40 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 0	All the negativity and ignorance on f2p is a sad indictment of this community; it is the largest growing sector of the gaming market along with the increase in games for portable devices. I too have been here since the start, my first exposure to computer gaming was playing tic tac toe using punched cards on the mainframe at my father’s workplace. My first personal computer, the zx80 kit I purchased and built back in 1980, and my first naval game, Gato on the Apple. However, it would seem unlike a large proportion of this community, I have also actively played a number of free to play titles and invested money in those I found interesting, and realise the value and exposure these sorts of titles bring to the table. As I said in another thread, every sub simmer should be hoping SHO does well; without games like SHO increasing exposure of the genre to new generations of gamers, no developer will be willing to invest time or money into more serious titles. For good and bad, UBI has been the only developer willing to invest and take a risk on the genre for a very long time. Without continued interest, the efforts of communities like subsim will be for naught, and the genre could well disappear altogether. Even if you have no interest in SHO at all; if you have any interest in the continued presence of sub sims in the market the last thing you should be doing is posting negative comments about the game. As they used to say, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all; and it happens to be sound advice.