Not a new problem apparently

BigWalleye · 05-09-13, 07:45 AM

Archive1, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm gonna guess that your laptop doesn't have the graphics capability to run SH3. SH3 isn't nearly as graphics-intensive as SH4 or SH5, but it is spec'ed for a stand-alone GPU, not an Intel on-board chipset. The Intel chipset is OK for "business graphics" - PowerPoint slides - but not for most graphics-oriented games. Trying to run it will likely result in CTDs. I think the only solution would be a different machine.

Archive1 · 09-14-13, 11:10 PM

Walleye:
Apologies for the long delay, but age and physiology impose their own constrictions/burdens/hurdles...in any case the new Toshiba laptop computer I'm trying to use with SH3 and all the GW addons (which worked just fine with my older laptop) has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 card. At least as far as I can tell. Using Win 7.
Tried again to run the sim and confirmed that it loads just fine through all the splash screen movie stuff, the selection of year/sub/starting port, etc, and seems to do fine most of the way loading the first mission but then crashes just before the last...maybe 10%...bit of the first mission finishes loading.
Is that clear? Dunno. In other words, it seems to load perfectly but then does not finish. Oh, it matters not if I select a pre-loaded Commander or start an entirely new Career.
Maybe too long a delay in the forum to expect any answer, but thought I'd try.
Thanks - Archive1

majestic23 · 09-15-13, 08:49 AM

FWIW, I run SH3 on a Thinkpad with Intel HD 3000 and it runs just fine, 30FPS+ at all times, no issues.

Works both in 4:3 (1024x768) as the native widescreen (1366x768) with Widescreen mod.

CTU_Clay · 09-15-13, 09:12 AM

To: Archive1;

Quote:

Maybe too long a delay in the forum to expect any answer, but thought I'd try.
Thanks - Archive1

Archive1;
Don't give on this group of talented SubSimmers here. This is the place help resolve your proplem. Some times it just take time. Everyone's problem is urgent to them, and we understand that here at SubSim. It could be a simple fix or a complex one. But most likely it will work out with time.
Clay

BigWalleye · 09-15-13, 12:16 PM

Archive1, your CTDs near the end of initialization sound like the problem is overloading either memory or GPU. Memory overload is easier to fix. Are you using the 4GB patch? If not, you should try installing it and see if that makes a difference.

Archive1 · 09-27-13, 11:32 PM

Walleye:
Long delay in reply...multiple reasons, but have not loaded '4GB patch' and am not sure what that is or even where it is. Some guidance, please.
Archive1...barely afloat, perhaps.

sublynx · 09-28-13, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archive1

Walleye:
Long delay in reply...multiple reasons, but have not loaded '4GB patch' and am not sure what that is or even where it is. Some guidance, please.
Archive1...barely afloat, perhaps.

This post has the link to the 4GB patch and some important advice on installing the game to a Windows 7 system:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=389

You can download the patch from here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=2888

Even if your graphics card is not enough to be actually playable, it should load the game screen if there is enough memory. I hope the 4GB patch will get you running

05-09-13, 07:45 AM	#1
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Archive1, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm gonna guess that your laptop doesn't have the graphics capability to run SH3. SH3 isn't nearly as graphics-intensive as SH4 or SH5, but it is spec'ed for a stand-alone GPU, not an Intel on-board chipset. The Intel chipset is OK for "business graphics" - PowerPoint slides - but not for most graphics-oriented games. Trying to run it will likely result in CTDs. I think the only solution would be a different machine.

09-14-13, 11:10 PM	#2
Archive1 Captain Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington State south of Tacoma Posts: 496 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Walleye: Apologies for the long delay, but age and physiology impose their own constrictions/burdens/hurdles...in any case the new Toshiba laptop computer I'm trying to use with SH3 and all the GW addons (which worked just fine with my older laptop) has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 card. At least as far as I can tell. Using Win 7. Tried again to run the sim and confirmed that it loads just fine through all the splash screen movie stuff, the selection of year/sub/starting port, etc, and seems to do fine most of the way loading the first mission but then crashes just before the last...maybe 10%...bit of the first mission finishes loading. Is that clear? Dunno. In other words, it seems to load perfectly but then does not finish. Oh, it matters not if I select a pre-loaded Commander or start an entirely new Career. Maybe too long a delay in the forum to expect any answer, but thought I'd try. Thanks - Archive1

09-15-13, 08:49 AM	#3
majestic23 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 13 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	FWIW, I run SH3 on a Thinkpad with Intel HD 3000 and it runs just fine, 30FPS+ at all times, no issues. Works both in 4:3 (1024x768) as the native widescreen (1366x768) with Widescreen mod.

09-15-13, 12:16 PM	#5
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Archive1, your CTDs near the end of initialization sound like the problem is overloading either memory or GPU. Memory overload is easier to fix. Are you using the 4GB patch? If not, you should try installing it and see if that makes a difference.

09-27-13, 11:32 PM	#6
Archive1 Captain Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington State south of Tacoma Posts: 496 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Walleye: Long delay in reply...multiple reasons, but have not loaded '4GB patch' and am not sure what that is or even where it is. Some guidance, please. Archive1...barely afloat, perhaps.