What concerns you most about SHO?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Nothing concerns me about SHO. Why? Because i won't play it.
Too simplistic and restricted in development for my tastes.

Pretty much how I feel about SHO, with one added reason. Being an online only title, there's going to be a problem:

Ubisoft's QA sucks.

Unlike SH3, SH4, and SH5, there will be no way for the player community to fix or find work arounds for the many bugs and broken features that Ubisoft will inevitably leave in the game after they abandon it for other projects.

[Red October1984]

The fact that it's an online only title....

That is annoying. Ubi doesn't care anymore. It's as simple as that for me.

[Vince82]

All of this, combined with the now poor reputation of the series, doesn't add up to a financial success to in my view.

Edit (so it's better understandable) It's a 'free' online game it's almost certainly going to be succesfull. Even we can try it at no cost at all. Reputation within a relatively small group of people doesn't matter at all, because Ubi is targetting a way larger market than the subsim community.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Vince82

reputation within a relatively small group of people doesn't matter at all.

i think the opposite is true

in a small community reputation is everything.

the problem here is that ubi is trying to make a subsim that is naturally a niche market into a non-niche market... in other words, generally a small group have loved and nurtured the series. now they want to make it available to everyone and try to get everyone to love it and nuture it.

when they dont love it... and it loses money and gets bad reviews or a poor reception the subsim genre will probably become a "leper" genre that developers shy away from in the future.

which leaves us with no new game titles for years and years

Im here to tell you this free to play, pay to win / browser game mash up is not going to pair well with a subsim.

but thats just my opinion talking

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Vince82

It's a free online game it's almost certainly going to be succesfull. Even we can try it at no cost at all, reputation within a relatively small group of people doesn't matter at all. Ubi is targetting a way larger market than the subsim community.

The reputation absolutely does matter, especially once you stick the Silent Hunter intellectual property label on it. And a P2W game is absolutely not free.

[Julhelm]

He means that the small hardcore community isn't the sole audience for this kind of game, so whether or not subsim posters hate the game has little effect on things. The majority of players never visit the forums to begin with...

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Julhelm

He means that the small hardcore community isn't the sole audience for this kind of game, so whether or not subsim posters hate the game has little effect on things. The majority of players never visit the forums to begin with...

In the modern world of the internet, reviews of previous titles are only a Google search away. It will take virtually no effort to see what people think of the series. And any kind of tolerance will last as long as it takes for people to realize that it costs $1.50 US to avoid the mandatory cooldown period.

[desertstriker]

Originally Posted by Vince82

It's a free online game it's almost certainly going to be succesfull. Even we can try it at no cost at all, reputation within a relatively small group of people doesn't matter at all. Ubi is targetting a way larger market than the subsim community.

But ubi cant do it without the subsim.com community because what we say will matter. if we all hate the game thats ALOT of people saying it is garbage. why did they invite onkel neal down and give his thoughts? Ubi is targeting a larger community you are right there but how many of that outer target will stick with the game? probably not alot because they don't have the patience for the genre.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by desertstriker

But ubi cant do it without the subsim.com community because what we say will matter. if we all hate the game thats ALOT of people saying it is garbage. why did they invite onkel neal down and give his thoughts? Ubi is targeting a larger community you are right there but how many of that outer target will stick with the game? probably not alot because they don't have the patience for the genre.

They already are doing it without this community's blessing. They're not counting on us, they are counting on a WoT style cash-in. The problem is that SHO will almost certainly be nowhere as good as WoT.

[Julhelm]

If you ever bothered to look on the games facebook page, for instance, the majority of comments there seem to be in the positive, with the exception of the very early once around the time the game was revealed.

[Takeda Shingen]

Must have been a good game, then.