Gun Control thread (merged many)

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Two minutes separate these posts.

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter which could only explain how such a joke based on his lackluster performance and easily researched shady background, manages to get elect.Same way other tyrants get to power, the rely on the less informed, intelligent etc in the population to go for them.This is why the appeal to EMOTION on all issues, from the economy, taxes, guns to everything, they never use facts etc The tired but useful "rich man with his foot on your neck" "white man keeping you down" etc etc . There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss. On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear, the heller decision backs up what I am saying(perhaps not on registration etc specifically) and people with their heads on right, who value their individual rights and constitutional/natural right to self defense agree as well.Please try and avoid your insult and insinuations, show me I am wrong Mookie, please , please TRY. You can't. Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter which could only explain how such a joke based on his lackluster performance and easily researched shady background, manages to get elect.Same way other tyrants get to power, the rely on the less informed, intelligent etc in the population to go for them.This is why the appeal to EMOTION on all issues, from the economy, taxes, guns to everything, they never use facts etc The tired but useful "rich man with his foot on your neck" "white man keeping you down" etc etc . There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss. On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear, the heller decision backs up what I am saying(perhaps not on registration etc specifically) and people with their heads on right, who value their individual rights and constitutional/natural right to self defense agree as well.Please try and avoid your insult and insinuations, show me I am wrong Mookie, please , please TRY. You can't. Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

No one who is even one degree to the left of your thinking can discuss anything with you. "Give me a real argument", "people with their heads on right". Why don't you argue with those who try instead of dismissing them and ignoring them because they don't qualify to you're self determined entry level. You state you love to debate but all I ever see from you is dictation to the "unwashed masses".

And yes you're posts were in unrelated threads, but they show you for who you are. Do as I say, not as I do.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I love how mookie tries to be some pseudo intellectual. My remarks were unrelated to the Thatcher quote as I was not insulted anyone in particular, I was describing the average obama voter

Are you really that obtuse? Your description, "They don't argue specifics, they just attack", describes you perfectly. You say "they" appeal to EMOTION, yet you capitalize the word as if you're yelling instead of discussing. You react emotionally. You say you like to debate, and yet when I ask you to show one single time you've ever actually debated anything on these threads, you can't. What you're doing now isn't debate, it's ranting. You attack everyone who disagrees with you. Yes, the attacks are vague, couched in terms of those on the other side. Everyone here has disagreed with you. You say you have invisible supporters, but not one of them has bothered to step up and say so. This makes you sound like a liar.

There are a lot of left wing types on here who hate that I won't back down and call them out.Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

No one hates you. We don't give you credit, not because you won't back down but because despite all the hints, suggestions and observations, you still haven't listened to what I keep telling you, and you keep going about it in the lamest possible way. Again, I agree with you on most of this, but you do your best to make us all look stupid. It isn't your tone, it's your inability to actually discuss the issue. You rant and rave, and shout and yell, and call anyone who disagrees with you "Leftie", yet you keep saying things about the way they talk, and then turn around and talk exactly the same way.

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss.

Why should they, when you've never discussed anything?

and people with their heads on right

You say things like that, but you come across as a far-right lunatic. That's not how you see yourself, but it is the image you project.

Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played(which is not a stretch for him) in the movie "Do The Right Thing", but that is a different story and getting dangerously close to getting personal. Back on subject.Please, oh please, tell me A. How I am wrong on this.

Dangerously close? As soon as you said "everytime I see your name" you were already being personal. It passes because others did it as well.

I'll tell you how you're wrong on this. As I said so many times "It's not what you say, it's how you say it." Again, I agree with you, but your ranting makes the rest of cringe in shame. You manage to make yourself look silly, and the jokes about you being a secret Leftie working to make the Right look bad actually have a ring of truth to them. You need to learn to actually debate a subject, and discuss it properly. Somebody with your claimed level of education should be able to do that. Until then, please stop making the rest of us look bad.

[Oberon]

I'm telling ya, he's got to be a Democrat being paid to act as a far-right Republican to make the rest of the Republicans look bad.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Some don't like my tone, they have some hang up about "civillity" on here.

Yeah those people include most every moderator and the site owner as well.

Everytime I see your name I think of The idiot spike lee played

Charming.

And just because I'm bored, here's more:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Say what you want, give me a real argument against what I have said here, and we can discuss.

No, we can't. You don't characterize anything the opposing side of your rants brings up as a "real argument." You dismiss any evidence to the contrary. Any statement or assertion from the other side is mocked, belittled and dismissed out of hand without any counter evidence.

On this issue, you can't, the second amendment is clear

See, this is a perfect example of exactly what everyone's trying to tell you. You refuse to debate, you refuse to consider the fact that you may be wrong. Your arrogance refuses to let you be swayed by any counter argument, no matter how well it's crafted, no matter what evidence is presented. And members of this forum know this. You've become a joke. You know why your threads aren't taken seriously and are filled with posts where people mock you? It's because of this right here. It's not because they disagree with your politics, it's because they disagree with the way you present yourself and your behavior.

A lot of people have learned that it's useless trying to engage you in any sort of rational debate where logical consistency is valued, arguments are framed, valid evidence and counter evidence is presented, and a conclusion is reached where one side values the efforts and discussion from the other side. It doesn't happen. You're convinced that you're right and everyone else is stupid, and you refuse to ever open your mind to any other possibility. It's pointless.

There remains one important question.
Should bubbles get a pay rise due to his performance?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

There remains one important question.
Should bubbles get a pay rise due to his performance?

Oh, definitely, I mean, he's doing a sterling job of persuading people to vote Democrat!

[August]

Interesting Wall Street Journal article on the gun control bill failure.

The President might have forged a compromise from the political center out that reduced gun violence at the margins while respecting Second Amendment rights. Instead, liberals cleaned out their ideological cupboards in favor of gun restrictions that would have little practical effect but would have notched a symbolic victory over the National Rifle Association and those benighted rubes in the provinces. By so overreaching, Mr. Obama couldn't even steamroll moderate members of his own party.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...176449846.html

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

And just because I'm bored, here's more:

Okay, I now have to file an official complaint. You are now doing what I do better than I do myself. This will not be tolerated.

Or maybe I'll just sit and spectate for awhile.

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Okay, I now have to file an official complaint. You are now doing what I do better than I do myself. This will not be tolerated.

Or maybe I'll just sit and spectate for awhile.

I can ban him if you like, he has been getting rather uppity lately.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

I can ban him if you like, he has been getting rather uppity lately.

Nah, it's not his fault he's a screaming commie fag pinko leftie crybaby whiner loser with two left feet and a left-handed monkey wrench in his back pocket which he doesn't know what it's for because he's never done an honest day's work in his life and spends his time in an ivy-league ivory tower planning new ways to overthrow the constitution and the 65-mph speed limit.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Nah, it's not his fault he's a screaming commie fag pinko leftie crybaby whiner loser with two left feet and a left-handed monkey wrench in his back pocket which he doesn't know what it's for because he's never done an honest day's work in his life and spends his time in an ivy-league ivory tower planning new ways to overthrow the constitution and the 65-mph speed limit.

But....But 55 saves lives!

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Nah, it's not his fault he's a screaming commie fag pinko leftie crybaby whiner loser with two left feet and a left-handed monkey wrench in his back pocket which he doesn't know what it's for because he's never done an honest day's work in his life and spends his time in an ivy-league ivory tower planning new ways to overthrow the constitution and the 65-mph speed limit.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen Takeda for a while?

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That's what entertains me the most about him. You read what he wrote, and you wonder if he's just like a really, really self aware person with a projection issue.

No... he doesn't quite use that one, I would go down a level and look at those ones.