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Captain Nemo · 04-17-13, 08:07 AM

Convoy HX11 is an example of a convoy escorted by submarines. In this case it was two French subs. See http://www.warsailors.com/convoys/hx11.html .

Nemo

GoldenRivet · 04-17-13, 08:58 AM

And these subs usually screened for the convoy... running submerged many miles out ahead of the convoy listening for submerged contacts.

as the convoy would catch up they could surface and reposition the sub before submerging again for some time.

As for the red green and blue convoy markers... mine are all dark grey, the only way to ensure the neutral status or enemy/friendly status of a contact is to sail up and check her flag just as in reality

Raptor · 04-17-13, 09:31 AM

There is a mod that removes all colors and the directional tails from the ship and convoy symbols on your map.

Only your U-boat shows up in color. Everything else is grey. You have to visually sort out friend from foe - just like the real Kaleuns had to do. God forbid you should sink a Brazilian neutral and start a war.

MantiBrutalis · 04-17-13, 12:00 PM

Logically speaking, submarines escorting or being part of a merchant convoy does not make that much sense. I just can't think of a reason why they should be used as such, they are much more useful in other ways...

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Convoy HX11 is an example of a convoy escorted by submarines. In this case it was two French subs.
Nemo

I can't really recall a war in which the French did very well...

I got black map markers too, although it would be nice having contact reports colored from time to time. I mean the BdU should know the status of a vessel they are contacting me about...

sharkbit · 04-17-13, 07:46 PM

GWX removes the colors and tails of ships/convoys. There is a mod that places them back if you so desire to run GWX and keep the colors.

MantiBrutalis · 04-18-13, 03:02 AM

Don't get me wrong, I love the fact you have to check the flag (or even stalk the ship though the night if the weather doesn't do your bidding).

But sometimes... Sometimes contact reports could come colored...

sharkbit · 04-18-13, 12:45 PM

It definitely makes you be sure of your target before you press the button to release an eel.
I....er, I mean I heard of someone almost torpedoing a German ore carrier of the coast of Norway in April of 1940.

"Almost" being the key word.
Nope...nope...it wasn't me. Nope. You can't prove it.

GoldenRivet · 04-18-13, 01:15 PM

One of my first GWX careers many moons ago... I was cruising on the surface in BF24 about 40 km off the Isles of Scilly on a dark overcast night when I encountered two slow moving tribal class destroyers headed on an easterly course.

I moved into attack position and fired one shot at each destroyer from periscope depth at about 2.5-3 km range.

Both shots hit well astern as I my speed calculation was in error a bit.

Both destroyers sat very low in the water dead still as I closed the range to about 800 meters to finish the kills.

I raised the scope abd lined up on the lead ship... It was then that I realized these were both type 34 destroyers sailing under the kriegsmarine flag!

I immediately thought "damn what are they doing putting along right in Tommie's front yard?!"

Fortunately neither ship sank, so the game never dinged me for it... But that's when I learned right fast... Check those flags

David I · 04-23-13, 11:13 AM

Manti,

"I can't really recall a war in which the French did very well..."

Well let's try these for size:

Norman Conquest
100 Years War (vs England)
30 Years War (vs Spain)
War of Spanish Succession
War of Polish Succession (vs Austria)
War of Autrian Succession
American Revolutionary War
French Revolutionary War
Crimean War
World War I
World War II (ultimately)

This does not include the numerous Wars that made up the Napoleonic Wars from 1801 to 1812.

This pretty much balances out their losses which would include:

7 Years War (lost to Great Britain and Prussia)
The later Napoleonic Wars (from 1812-1814 and again 1815)
Franco-Prussian War
Indo-China War
Algerian War

Like the US and Great Britain they have fought and won/lost a number of "small" imperialistic wars in Africa, Middle East, Asia, North America and South America.

David I

04-17-13, 08:07 AM	#1
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Convoy HX11 is an example of a convoy escorted by submarines. In this case it was two French subs. See http://www.warsailors.com/convoys/hx11.html . Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

04-17-13, 08:58 AM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	And these subs usually screened for the convoy... running submerged many miles out ahead of the convoy listening for submerged contacts. as the convoy would catch up they could surface and reposition the sub before submerging again for some time. As for the red green and blue convoy markers... mine are all dark grey, the only way to ensure the neutral status or enemy/friendly status of a contact is to sail up and check her flag just as in reality __________________

04-17-13, 09:31 AM	#3
Raptor Weps Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pacific NW, USA Posts: 350 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	There is a mod that removes all colors and the directional tails from the ship and convoy symbols on your map. Only your U-boat shows up in color. Everything else is grey. You have to visually sort out friend from foe - just like the real Kaleuns had to do. God forbid you should sink a Brazilian neutral and start a war. __________________ Raptor

04-17-13, 07:46 PM	#5
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	GWX removes the colors and tails of ships/convoys. There is a mod that places them back if you so desire to run GWX and keep the colors. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

04-18-13, 12:45 PM	#7
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	It definitely makes you be sure of your target before you press the button to release an eel. I....er, I mean I heard of someone almost torpedoing a German ore carrier of the coast of Norway in April of 1940. "Almost" being the key word. Nope...nope...it wasn't me. Nope. You can't prove it. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

04-18-13, 03:02 AM	#6
MantiBrutalis Planesman Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Pilsen, Czech Republic Posts: 183 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Don't get me wrong, I love the fact you have to check the flag (or even stalk the ship though the night if the weather doesn't do your bidding). But sometimes... Sometimes contact reports could come colored...

04-18-13, 01:15 PM	#8
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	One of my first GWX careers many moons ago... I was cruising on the surface in BF24 about 40 km off the Isles of Scilly on a dark overcast night when I encountered two slow moving tribal class destroyers headed on an easterly course. I moved into attack position and fired one shot at each destroyer from periscope depth at about 2.5-3 km range. Both shots hit well astern as I my speed calculation was in error a bit. Both destroyers sat very low in the water dead still as I closed the range to about 800 meters to finish the kills. I raised the scope abd lined up on the lead ship... It was then that I realized these were both type 34 destroyers sailing under the kriegsmarine flag! I immediately thought "damn what are they doing putting along right in Tommie's front yard?!" Fortunately neither ship sank, so the game never dinged me for it... But that's when I learned right fast... Check those flags __________________

04-23-13, 11:13 AM	#9
David I Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 231 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Manti Manti, "I can't really recall a war in which the French did very well..." Well let's try these for size: Norman Conquest 100 Years War (vs England) 30 Years War (vs Spain) War of Spanish Succession War of Polish Succession (vs Austria) War of Autrian Succession American Revolutionary War French Revolutionary War Crimean War World War I World War II (ultimately) This does not include the numerous Wars that made up the Napoleonic Wars from 1801 to 1812. This pretty much balances out their losses which would include: 7 Years War (lost to Great Britain and Prussia) The later Napoleonic Wars (from 1812-1814 and again 1815) Franco-Prussian War Indo-China War Algerian War Like the US and Great Britain they have fought and won/lost a number of "small" imperialistic wars in Africa, Middle East, Asia, North America and South America. David I