Are you willing?

Sailor Steve · 04-14-13, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

How about gay marriage? Should two lesbians that are married and had in vitro fertilization be allowed to have an abortion?Double whammy that one.

Personally I think that they should be allowed both to be married and to have an abortion.Of course if two people paid the costs to have in vitro they would only choose
abortion under an extreme circumstance.

It's not whether you think it should be allowed. This discussion is about rights. To bring that into this discussion we would have to talk about who has what actual rights in both cases, and whether those rights would be given up in exchange for something else, expressly something involving safety.

I know you were being facetious. Considering the actual topic wasn't even about rights, but giving up Liberty in exchange for Safety, it probably was aimed mainly at the gun question, and we should probably stay there.

razark · 04-14-13, 10:29 PM

Hasn't American society already decided that it is good to take away certain rights so that others can feel safer? Otherwise, once a felon is released from prison (after serving their full sentence), they should immediately have all rights restored, including that right to keep and bear arms.

Or is it a case of "My liberty should not be given up for safety, but I'm fine if your rights are given up for my safety."?

Sailor Steve · 04-14-13, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Hasn't American society already decided that it is good to take away certain rights so that others can feel safer? Otherwise, once a felon is released from prison (after serving their full sentence), they should immediately have all rights restored, including that right to keep and bear arms.

There are a few of us who believe that to be the proper course.

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Or is it a case of "My liberty should not be given up for safety, but I'm fine if your rights are given up for my safety."?

That's an excellent point.

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razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Hasn't American society already decided that it is good to take away certain rights so that others can feel safer? Otherwise, once a felon is released from prison (after serving their full sentence), they should immediately have all rights restored, including that right to keep and bear arms. Or is it a case of "My liberty should not be given up for safety, but I'm fine if your rights are given up for my safety."? __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"