Socialist States of America still not learning the lessons

04-07-13, 07:09 PM

I object to the thread title...........
According to the 'Book of Yubba' we ain't Socialist yet.

Oberon · 04-07-13, 07:10 PM

I dunno, I think you're socialist today, it's a Monday, isn't it? Oh, no, wait it's still Sunday over there, no, no, you're Fascist at the moment.

04-07-13, 07:18 PM

No. I was Fascist yesterday.
Today is Sunday here so I'm Agnostic today.
Tomorrow, which is Monday, I'll be Capitalist.

nikimcbee · 04-07-13, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I object to the thread title...........
According to the 'Book of Yubba' we ain't Socialist yet.

Damn, you beat me to it.

04-07-13, 07:27 PM

Last time I looked, promoting home ownership was something the right did...

04-07-13, 07:29 PM

And what did the wrong do?

Red October1984 · 04-07-13, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

And what did the wrong do?

We're a bunch of idiots, ya know?

Spoon 11th · 04-07-13, 07:42 PM

I don't know if this is related. The subject doesn't interest me enough, but here's a video from ReasonTV channel:

Vernon Smith and Steve Gjerstad on Housing and the Never-Ending Recession

"All [economic] recoveries are associated with recoveries in housing...except for the Great Recession, this last one," says behavioral economist and Nobel Prize winner Vernon Smith.

Smith and colleague Steve Gjerstad spoke at Reason Weekend, the annual donor event held by Reason Foundation (the nonprofit that publishes Reason.com). They argue that the recession is far from over and that the lingering effects of the collapsed housing market will be felt for years to come.

35 minutes

Aramike · 04-08-13, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Last time I looked, promoting home ownership was something the right did...

One would think that promoting responsible home ownership would be something that benefits us all. But promoting home ownership for the sake of such is irresponsible.

Like it or not, not everyone should have the RIGHT to owning a home. Such is still something that should be earned.

eddie · 04-08-13, 12:40 AM

Looks like the elitists in Germany are denying the German people a right to have an airport that works!

Leave it to the socialists to screw that up too!

http://news.msn.com/world/delays-gro...-shame-germans

Skybird · 04-08-13, 05:01 AM

The Berlin airport is the biggest and most expensive jokes of all major construction projects currently being... being... tried in Germany, yes.

The new central station Stuttgart 21 or the so-called Elb-Philharmonie or the new blue-water harbour at Bremerhafen are just three other prominent examples where leaders' personal megalomania led them to not do the table homework and calculations properly. There are more examples.

But we got a new air port in Kassel-Calden. 270 million. With four regional airports and Frankfurt Main Hub nearby. The construction went smooth and within time table, almost. The reward : they have one plane per day.

The thing was wanted but irresponsible politicians who are not even in politics any longer. The losses this thing creates every day, must be payed by the tax payer.

Hoppenian explanation in action!

Skybird · 04-08-13, 05:06 AM

On the US housing issue, cheap credits given to crowds of people who could not afford it was one of the key reasons that triggered the crisis 2007/2008. It was not the factor leading and creating the crisis in the decades before, but it was one of the triggers that finally blew it up.

And now they do the same insane suicidal trick again, while already having flooded the market with devalued money. First you place the explosives. Then you arm the igniters.

People do not learn, they just do not learn. Instead the try to solve every issue with the same old hammer that they happen to have learned as their only tool available.

And those politicians proposing this "solution"? Will never be held accountable. Just not voting for somebody is not holding that someone responsible for what he did - in fact what it is is letting him get away with it.

And who said that people will not vote for the sweet-talkers next time? They promise what people want: private property that people originally cannot afford, and cheap credit. Let the party go on. A material gain falling from heaven without having been worked for. Manna for the people!

Bills? What do you mean by "bills"...?

Stimulus packages, and all that. I laugh about this nonsense. That is no reasonable economic concept. That is economic superstition.

Skybird · 04-07-13, 07:31 PM

Democracy IS socialism right because of its very basic mechanism by which it is running. The basic principle driving democracy, is redistribution income from private property to the non-private collective. And that is what socialism is about. The plebs demand it. The candidate promises it. Both are accomplices in crime. Democracy is the tyranny of the plebs. An ideal it became just in the past 100 years or so. Before, democracy was seen with utmost contempt and disgust, right back until the ancient Greeks. To say that the Greek "invented" democracy, is only one half of the truth. The other is that they saw it as a big evil that should be prevented, since it necessarily must ruin the state and corrupt society - in pretty much right the ways we see today.

yubba · 04-07-13, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I object to the thread title...........
According to the 'Book of Yubba' we ain't Socialist yet.

Soon very soon, you should check out what bite me said this weekend http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/biden-cal...w-world-order/ I really don't want to be living in the woods to get away from you guys the bugs suck here. You know why we haven't learned anything it is because we are still printing money.

04-07-13, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

Soon very soon, you should check out what bite me said this weekend http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/biden-cal...w-world-order/ I really don't want to be living in the woods to get away from you guys the bugs suck here.

Dude. Everyone uses the 'New World Order' thing.
Even the wrestling crowd did that on TV!
And do you believe that was true?

Oh, yea, it's a BIG snake all twined into a ball.
More then one point don't work with all the EVIL plans pointed out by you and others that are allowed internet access.

I'd point out the flaws in details but then they would only invent other crazy stuff that does not add up.

I don't trust this Goverment anymore then I trust common thieves I know.
That don't mean I believe they are able to pull off the stunts you believe they will do.

04-08-13, 05:01 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,792 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Berlin airport is the biggest and most expensive jokes of all major construction projects currently being... being... tried in Germany, yes. The new central station Stuttgart 21 or the so-called Elb-Philharmonie or the new blue-water harbour at Bremerhafen are just three other prominent examples where leaders' personal megalomania led them to not do the table homework and calculations properly. There are more examples. But we got a new air port in Kassel-Calden. 270 million. With four regional airports and Frankfurt Main Hub nearby. The construction went smooth and within time table, almost. The reward : they have one plane per day. The thing was wanted but irresponsible politicians who are not even in politics any longer. The losses this thing creates every day, must be payed by the tax payer. Hoppenian explanation in action! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 04-08-13 at 05:11 AM.

04-08-13, 05:06 AM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,792 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	On the US housing issue, cheap credits given to crowds of people who could not afford it was one of the key reasons that triggered the crisis 2007/2008. It was not the factor leading and creating the crisis in the decades before, but it was one of the triggers that finally blew it up. And now they do the same insane suicidal trick again, while already having flooded the market with devalued money. First you place the explosives. Then you arm the igniters. People do not learn, they just do not learn. Instead the try to solve every issue with the same old hammer that they happen to have learned as their only tool available. And those politicians proposing this "solution"? Will never be held accountable. Just not voting for somebody is not holding that someone responsible for what he did - in fact what it is is letting him get away with it. And who said that people will not vote for the sweet-talkers next time? They promise what people want: private property that people originally cannot afford, and cheap credit. Let the party go on. A material gain falling from heaven without having been worked for. Manna for the people! Bills? What do you mean by "bills"...? Stimulus packages, and all that. I laugh about this nonsense. That is no reasonable economic concept. That is economic superstition. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 04-08-13 at 07:40 AM.

04-07-13, 07:31 PM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,792 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Democracy IS socialism right because of its very basic mechanism by which it is running. The basic principle driving democracy, is redistribution income from private property to the non-private collective. And that is what socialism is about. The plebs demand it. The candidate promises it. Both are accomplices in crime. Democracy is the tyranny of the plebs. An ideal it became just in the past 100 years or so. Before, democracy was seen with utmost contempt and disgust, right back until the ancient Greeks. To say that the Greek "invented" democracy, is only one half of the truth. The other is that they saw it as a big evil that should be prevented, since it necessarily must ruin the state and corrupt society - in pretty much right the ways we see today. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-07-13, 07:09 PM	#1
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I object to the thread title........... According to the 'Book of Yubba' we ain't Socialist yet.

04-07-13, 07:10 PM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I dunno, I think you're socialist today, it's a Monday, isn't it? Oh, no, wait it's still Sunday over there, no, no, you're Fascist at the moment.

04-07-13, 07:18 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	No. I was Fascist yesterday. Today is Sunday here so I'm Agnostic today. Tomorrow, which is Monday, I'll be Capitalist.

04-07-13, 07:27 PM	#5
AndyJWest Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Last time I looked, promoting home ownership was something the right did...

04-07-13, 07:29 PM	#6
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	And what did the wrong do?

04-07-13, 07:42 PM	#8
Spoon 11th Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 689 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this is related. The subject doesn't interest me enough, but here's a video from ReasonTV channel: Vernon Smith and Steve Gjerstad on Housing and the Never-Ending Recession "All [economic] recoveries are associated with recoveries in housing...except for the Great Recession, this last one," says behavioral economist and Nobel Prize winner Vernon Smith. Smith and colleague Steve Gjerstad spoke at Reason Weekend, the annual donor event held by Reason Foundation (the nonprofit that publishes Reason.com). They argue that the recession is far from over and that the lingering effects of the collapsed housing market will be felt for years to come. 35 minutes

04-08-13, 12:40 AM	#10
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Looks like the elitists in Germany are denying the German people a right to have an airport that works! Leave it to the socialists to screw that up too! http://news.msn.com/world/delays-gro...-shame-germans