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Old 04-05-13, 05:47 AM   #16
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How old is the Saudi version?
What you have is an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot of an offshoot.......... How is that the mainstream?
It may be the mainstream in Saudi amongst Saudi citizens, but it isn't the mainstream by any means.
It does not matter how old is Saudi "interpretation" what matter is that they have working system that many would like copy if not going even further with it.
The question is not what mr Tribesman think is true Islam or some guy next block thinks all though it may give hope of possibility that it can be reformed somehow toward civilised way.
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Old 04-05-13, 07:14 AM   #17
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It does not matter how old is Saudi "interpretation" what matter is that they have working system that many would like copy if not going even further with it.
The Amish fit your bill, are they mainstream too?

What matters is that over the past few decades the Saudis have been using their petro dollars to spread their fairly recent version of a reactionary fundamentalist flavour of a movement.

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The question is not what mr Tribesman think is true Islam or some guy next block thinks all though it may give hope of possibility that it can be reformed somehow toward civilised way.
You miss that it is "reformed", unfortunately this particular flavour is reformed along ultra-conservative ideals.
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Old 04-05-13, 07:18 AM   #18
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Missionizing, is an aggression.
strong.
but... mmmh yes i see what you mean.
Them Jehovas wasting my time, next time i call them cops and claim they want to intrude, are already checking out my vigilance...


how bout this line:
"Religion should be included in consumer protection legislation because they’re selling a very dodgy product that promises much but delivers nothing."
Hahahahaha :P awesome...
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Old 04-05-13, 07:33 AM   #19
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The Amish fit your bill, are they mainstream too?

What matters is that over the past few decades the Saudis have been using their petro dollars to spread their fairly recent version of a reactionary fundamentalist flavour of a movement.
While the dictators of ME resisted.

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You miss that it is "reformed", unfortunately this particular flavour is reformed along ultra-conservative ideals.
Yeah yeah words......no...i did not miss anything.
Pleas tell me what is not reformed or interpreted Islam if it exists.
Not that it really matters because what is important is what people buy.
With the cultural roots around here it is much easer to sell fundamentalism than liberalism .
I mean that for average Muhammad is easer to compromise backward than forward.
That is one of the reason why things here(ME) are the way they are.
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Old 04-05-13, 08:24 AM   #20
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While the dictators of ME resisted.
Indeed they did, oh sorry you were trying to make a point somewhere

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Yeah yeah words......no...i did not miss anything.
You miss plenty, which is why you overstate yourself all the time.
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Old 04-05-13, 10:26 AM   #21
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I'm not seeing anything about paralysis in that passage. And we also have to remember that this is Sharia law, which is an extreme version of Islam. We can't just say 'A small group of Muslims are doing this horrendous act, the Quran must be the cause of it'. That would be like saying 'A small group of American's are torturing POWs, the constitution must be the cause of it'.
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And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
It's not a small group that utilizes Sharia law, most of the Arabian pensula, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Sudan implement full/almost full Sharia. Most of North Africa has Sharia only for domestic issues but that is rapidly changing (see Egypt).
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Old 04-05-13, 10:29 AM   #22
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Gentlemen, can we just agree that we should treat our religious views like we treat our penis? We can do whatever we want with it in our homes, but we should never pull it out in public.
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Old 04-05-13, 10:43 AM   #23
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You miss plenty, which is why you overstate yourself all the time.
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Gentlemen, can we just agree that we should treat our religious views like we treat our penis? We can do whatever we want with it in our homes, but we should never pull it out in public.

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