Creationist Explains How Humans Could Have Hunted The Tyrannosaurus Rex

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

For those of you who haven't seen it, I highly recommend you waych this documentary:

I've seen it, and I can't imagine a worse piece of biased propaganda.

My favorite part is when Ben Stein confronts Mr. Evolution himself, Richard Dawkins, and ends up leaving him stammering and stuttering through his replies.

You mean the part where, as in all of this kind of "documentary", only a small part of the Dawkins interview is shown, with Ben Stein interjecting comments after the fact?

Despite it's outward appearance, this is a very compelling documentary.

Actually it's not a documentary at all. It is heavily edited so only the opinion of the writer and director is shown. All others are made to look foolish by post-production flim-flam.

It may not only change your opinion about Evolution, but a great many other alleged facts that the scientific community purports as truth. Science these days, it seems, is becoming more like a religion than a field of study.

Not really. While there are always people who jump on any bandwagon and adhere to it zealously, that applies to maybe 5% of the people who claim to believe in science. It only seems that way to those who want to believe that it is that way.

[Jimbuna]

In for reference

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

In for +1

You seem to have made a typo, fixed that for you.

Dont worry, it happens to all of us.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Dont worry, it happens to all of us.

You can't say that! It's never happened to...

<looks at sig>


What was the question again?

[Skybird]

[Armistead]

Christ told parables, so did many of the OT writers. It's clear that many tales of lore were passed down and numerous groups gave them their personal spin. It's not so much the story be true, but what truth is being taught in the story. If people want to believe the earth is 10,000 years old or Noah's flood was a literal event, fine with me. I look more to what stories are teaching.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Armistead

This forum is rather tame, try debating in a religious forum if you want some real fireworks.

Do they make fun of other members' posts in these religious forums too?
I don't debate religion. That's for the hearer to believe or disbelieve as they choose. I won't treat them contemptuously because they choose to believe something different.

[Wolferz]

Perhaps God created evolution. Perhaps a monotheistic deity would have no concept of time to the point of considering a day to equal a million years or more on this planet. We just don't know for sure.
Science looks at everything in black and white and requires proof.
Religion looks at only one thing, The Bible, as proof and the rest is faith.
Bashing either view is just a sign of insecurity on the part of the basher.

Either side could be wrong. But, I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

Then we can all bash all the folks with the egg on their faces Or the chicken, depending on which camp you pitched your tent in.

[Dowly]

@WernherVonTrapp

People just simply pointed out that the documentary shouldnt be taken very seriously. Perhaps not in the most kindest manner possible, but I dont see anything
to be so upset about.

God is just another conspiracy theory.

But Santa is good bloke, he brought me the trainset I asked for.
( never did figure out why there was a dead pony on the track though ......... )

[WernherVonTrapp]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've seen it, and I can't imagine a worse piece of biased propaganda.


You mean the part where, as in all of this kind of "documentary", only a small part of the Dawkins interview is shown, with Ben Stein interjecting comments after the fact?


Actually it's not a documentary at all. It is heavily edited so only the opinion of the writer and director is shown. All others are made to look foolish by post-production flim-flam.


Not really. While there are always people who jump on any bandwagon and adhere to it zealously, that applies to maybe 5% of the people who claim to believe in science. It only seems that way to those who want to believe that it is that way.

Although I only mentioned my favorite part of the documentary, I was speaking of the movie as a "whole", including the interviews with other scientists, science journalists and former university professors. All whom have been blackballed by the scientific community simply due to their "willingness" to concede there is evidence of "intelligent design".
I wasn't talking about God nor have I ridiculed anyone with my post.
It's interesting to see the passion with which I am confronted, simply because I posted a documentary that I liked, in what appeared to be an appropriate thread for such. I found the documentary to be extremely interesting, compelling, and thought others might find it interesting too, but instead, I am confronted with ridicule.
Very interesting indeed.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Although I only mentioned my favorite part of the documentary, I was speaking of the movie as a "whole", including the interviews with other scientists, science journalists and former university professors. All whom have been blackballed by the scientific community simply due to their "willingness" to concede there is evidence of "intelligent design".

I believe in the possibilty of intelligent design, but that also means the possibility that the Deists were right, that the Designer made it exactly the way science sees it, evolution and all. As for "blackballing", it looks to me that they've done a bit more than just "concede there is evidence". They've tried to promote "evidence" that isn't there, and shown themselves to be poor scientists, at least in that area.

Just my opinion, of course.

I wasn't talking about God nor have I ridiculed anyone with my post.

But the "documentary" did exactly that. "Intelligent Design" is the new term for "Biblical Creation", pure and simple. It's fine that they believe that, but to try to disguise it is dishonest in the extreme.

It's interesting to see the passion with which I am confronted, simply because I posted a documentary that I liked, in what appeared to be an appropriate thread for such. I found the documentary to be extremely interesting, compelling, and thought others might find it interesting too, but instead, I am confronted with ridicule.
Very interesting indeed.

I'm not passionate about it at all. The only thing I care about is honesty, and I pointed out just a few of the places in which the filmmaker was anything but honest.

I haven't ridiculed you at all. That you take my honest criticism of the film as personal hostility toward you shows, to me, that your own passion might be controlling your thoughts instead of the other way around. My beef is with the filmmaker, not you.