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Old 04-05-13, 02:32 AM   #1
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Links or it ain't true.
Just your opinion for now.

I have it on good source Santa was a Saint.
Until he crossed into Enemy Air Space anyway.
Damned Drones!
Here is a link verifying the information

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203495

So it is now undeniably true
 
Old 04-05-13, 04:56 AM   #2
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It's not like the OP drove to Mastropaolo's house, took a picture of the man and posted it here with the headline "Look at that moron!"
This guy went to the public to talk about his ideas, so it is legitimate to discuss those in public, be it approval, disproval and everything in between. Yes: Mockery is also freedom of speech.

Instead of complaining how people paint a group with a wide brush (never happened in GT before ), the Creationist folks could just have posted some links which show Mastropaolo does not belong to this group and how the real Creationists tick. (Btw: who is the authority to decide who belongs into this group?)
When I see someone claiming dinosaurs and the homo sapiens co-existed, I label them Creationist, I'm not terribly interested in the fine nuances, it's all the same belief to me.
Same if someone rants about genetic inferiority of races, I'm not particular interested if they call themselves (skin color) power, segregationists, dawinists, etc. It's fair to lump them all together, when their core belief is the same and absurd, read: everything pointing in the direction that it is wrong.

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While this does make him qualified to discuss in some ways to discuss the possibility of evolution, it does not qualify him as a theologian.
is nonsense.
Again: who in Allah's name is the authority to decide who is qualified to discuss faith?. Freedom of belief much?
Is someone not a Christian who can't cite more than 20 Bible verses? Should us here on this board refrain from discussing tactics in SH3, because none of us is actually a Kaleun?
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It's not like the OP drove to Mastropaolo's house, took a picture of the man and posted it here with the headline "Look at that moron!"
This guy went to the public to talk about his ideas, so it is legitimate to discuss those in public, be it approval, disproval and everything in between. Yes: Mockery is also freedom of speech.
If you look at it the OP is no different from someone posting an opinion piece by Wade Churchill or Glenn Beck and saying "look at what these people "think"".
The only people who would be actually offended are those that share the views being expressed, so if they want to try and defend those views go ahead.

I think the real problem some have towards the issue is the complete ease with which creationism can be taken apart using only the "evidence" they use to support their position.
That ease is what makes them so passionate about "attacks" on their views and so eager to go into outrage mode.
 
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If you look at it the OP is no different from someone posting an opinion piece by Wade Churchill or Glenn Beck and saying "look at what these people "think"".
The only people who would be actually offended are those that share the views being expressed, so if they want to try and defend those views go ahead.

I think the real problem some have towards the issue is the complete ease with which creationism can be taken apart using only the "evidence" they use to support their position.
That ease is what makes them so passionate about "attacks" on their views and so eager to go into outrage mode.
I agree, we have the expression here:"Getroffene Hunde bellen" - "Struck dogs bark", our way of saying "if the shoe fits..."

For some weird reasons, Germans love dog proverbs, my favorite being "This makes the dog in the frying pan become mad!" - in plain English it's just: "Gosh!"
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http://freethinker.co.uk/2013/04/05/...sign-from-god/
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Instead of complaining how people paint a group with a wide brush (never happened in GT before )
I don't see how this concerns you as a male European, or what you could possibly even understand about it if you never were a carrot, so I kindly ask you to shut up with your stupid, argumented and informed opinions. No offence.
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@CaptainHaplo

This thread has been quite civil so far, given the subject at hand. The only one
I find stirring the pot is you with your "holier than thou" posts, which I might add,
are absent from other threads where some other group is being ridiculed.

That's just my opinion.

EDIT: Oh oh oh, I want to post a funny picture too!!



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Creationism has no place in a science class.
I disagree, I think science class should have a lesson covering it, together with the flat earth, geocentricism, astrology, phrenology, chirology........
Science should be fun and having one lesson devoted to various crank theories would bring some light relief to the syllabus.
 
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This thread has been quite civil so far, given the subject at hand.
So you don't have a problem with someone saying that anyone with a specific belief should be killed? Hmm - maybe they should have said that about people who like ferrets, or just kill all the finnish type folks who believe they are Scandinavian instead of Russian? Would that have been "quite civil"?

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The only one I find stirring the pot is you with your "holier than thou" posts, which I might add, are absent from other threads where some other group is being ridiculed.
It's not me be being holier than thou - its simply expecting a little common decency. It isn't just here - its been running rampant around here for a while, and as I said - its sad to see. It isn't appropriate to call for the death of any large group of people for their belief, as well as its wrong to take one idiot's opinion and use it to mock an entire group. Those kinds of activities - not just in this thread but throughout the forum, have simply gotten way too old. I don't gripe about it in every thread - because I don't respond in every thread. Recent events have made this the "straw that broke the camels back" for me - and so I chose to say something.

I think the guy is a moron too - I got no problem with saying that. That doesn't justify the hatemongering that followed against a whole group though.

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EDIT: Oh oh oh, I want to post a funny picture too!!
Now that - and some of the earlier ones (video included) were hilarious.

Poke fun at the person who makes a stupid statement. Don't assume that one person's opinion applies to everyone in a group. Treat people with differing views than you with a modicum of respect. Are those things too much to expect here anymore? Apparently so....
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This thread has been quite civil so far, given the subject at hand.
It was only a matter of time.
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In the beginning there was the word and the word was Creationist Explains How Humans Could Have Hunted The Tyrannosaurus Rex and lo the sky filled with the roar of laughter as the outcome of the topic was well known as it is fortold.
 
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I can't believe this thread is still going..
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