Save game crash important discovery!

[Marko_Ramius]

So, i removed those mods :

- LifeBoats&Debris_V4
- GWX-Ehanced Damaged Effects
- Torpedo Damage Final V.2.0
- TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_V4.0_SH3
- TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_V1_4_SH3
- SH4StyleFlags_GWX

and i loaded a good saved game from my last test patrol (with 1 convoy).
Game loaded fine as expected, and i moved my sub in position and wait for the targets ; i sunk one ship and 2 was wounded and sunk a bit later. I evade the convoy deep and slow, and when they get some distance, i surfaced the boat. No visual contact ; I let the sub moving away from them a few miles more and saved the game.

I quit SH3 and reload and guess what --> Game loaded fine

Of course, i should begin again the thing for confirmation, but still, it's a big step forward (in my particular case, maybe), this is the first saved game (after sinking ships) who works ok since a lot of hours/days/week of playing !!

So, i will now re-activate mods, one by one, and repeat the shoot on this convoy. i will of course let you know the results.

[Jimbuna]

^ Best course of action.

Originally Posted by Marko_Ramius

So, i removed those mods :

- LifeBoats&Debris_V4
- GWX-Ehanced Damaged Effects
- Torpedo Damage Final V.2.0
- TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_V4.0_SH3
- TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_V1_4_SH3
- SH4StyleFlags_GWX

and i loaded a good saved game from my last test patrol (with 1 convoy).
Game loaded fine as expected, and i moved my sub in position and wait for the targets ; i sunk one ship and 2 was wounded and sunk a bit later. I evade the convoy deep and slow, and when they get some distance, i surfaced the boat. No visual contact ; I let the sub moving away from them a few miles more and saved the game.

I quit SH3 and reload and guess what --> Game loaded fine

Of course, i should begin again the thing for confirmation, but still, it's a big step forward (in my particular case, maybe), this is the first saved game (after sinking ships) who works ok since a lot of hours/days/week of playing !!

So, i will now re-activate mods, one by one, and repeat the shoot on this convoy. i will of course let you know the results.

I think it was sucessful because you left the rendering radius of the sinking ship. SH3 renders ships and 3d models within 40km of the uboat, I think. Even though it grabs the initial data from the campaign layer upon mission load. It's not rendered until you are 40km within the 3d object.

So, I think you were out of the rendering radius of that sinking ship, and thus the save didn't have to mention it. Therefore, good working save and no ctd.

Because now I bet if you load your save and go back to the sinking ship location, the ship will be there again. Because sunken ships only stay sunken within the rendering radius. If you leave that radius and come back, forcing the game to reread the data it pulled from the campaign layer, the ship will reapper good as new.

[brett25]

my experience with Life boats and Debris was this: game crashes apon sinking ship...remove LB@D, ship sinks...save works, I ddidnt leave the radius of the ship in either case.

Originally Posted by brett25

my experience with Life boats and Debris was this: game crashes apon sinking ship...remove LB@D, ship sinks...save works, I ddidnt leave the radius of the ship in either case.

Others say it happens in vanilla. odd.

Originally Posted by Marko_Ramius

So, i removed those mods :

- LifeBoats&Debris_V4
- GWX-Ehanced Damaged Effects
- Torpedo Damage Final V.2.0
- TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_V4.0_SH3
- TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_V1_4_SH3
- SH4StyleFlags_GWX

and i loaded a good saved game from my last test patrol (with 1 convoy).
Game loaded fine as expected, and i moved my sub in position and wait for the targets ; i sunk one ship and 2 was wounded and sunk a bit later. I evade the convoy deep and slow, and when they get some distance, i surfaced the boat. No visual contact ; I let the sub moving away from them a few miles more and saved the game.

I quit SH3 and reload and guess what --> Game loaded fine

Of course, i should begin again the thing for confirmation, but still, it's a big step forward (in my particular case, maybe), this is the first saved game (after sinking ships) who works ok since a lot of hours/days/week of playing !!

So, i will now re-activate mods, one by one, and repeat the shoot on this convoy. i will of course let you know the results.

Try to stay within viewing distance of the sinking ship when you save it too. This will help eliminate one possible issue.

[Marko_Ramius]

Hi again guys,

I reloaded SH3 with all the mods i was used to, except one :

TheDarkWaith_DC_Water_Disturbance_V4_SH3

I sunk two ships and evaded ; I made one save with the ships sunk within 10 kilometers, and one far way later.

I reloaded the first save (within 10Km) : Game loaded fine !!
I reloaded the second saved game : Game loaded fine !!

So, for me, it seems that particular mod is the culprit, BUT :

After reloaded the second saved game, i decided to go over my patrol and sank a few ships ( 3 in another convoy) and an other lonely ship later in the patrol. After that last hit, i saved and quit the game.

Today, i reload SH3 and load that last saved game : Crash at the "Not so long ago "

This time, i do nothing and reload SH3 but i choose a saved game just before the last and : Game load fine ( The state of the game is after the second convoy was hit by me, at about 12 Kms of the ships i killed.


So, i don't know what to think .. Things are definitely better for me without this particular mod, but not "perfect"

I will continue testing but it takes so much time !! But i just don't want to give up, not yet

The next mod which i will remove is " TheDarkWaith_Ship_Plane" and see what happens.

Next ship i sink, i will stay within visual range and save the game.

[DrJones]

Originally Posted by Marko_Ramius

Hi again guys,

I reloaded SH3 with all the mods i was used to, except one :

TheDarkWaith_DC_Water_Disturbance_V4_SH3

I sunk two ships and evaded ; I made one save with the ships sunk within 10 kilometers, and one far way later.

I reloaded the first save (within 10Km) : Game loaded fine !!
I reloaded the second saved game : Game loaded fine !!

So, for me, it seems that particular mod is the culprit, BUT :

After reloaded the second saved game, i decided to go over my patrol and sank a few ships ( 3 in another convoy) and an other lonely ship later in the patrol. After that last hit, i saved and quit the game.

Today, i reload SH3 and load that last saved game : Crash at the "Not so long ago "

This time, i do nothing and reload SH3 but i choose a saved game just before the last and : Game load fine ( The state of the game is after the second convoy was hit by me, at about 12 Kms of the ships i killed.


So, i don't know what to think .. Things are definitely better for me without this particular mod, but not "perfect"

I will continue testing but it takes so much time !! But i just don't want to give up, not yet

The next mod which i will remove is " TheDarkWaith_Ship_Plane" and see what happens.

Next ship i sink, i will stay within visual range and save the game.

What mod is this?? -> " TheDarkWaith_Ship_Plane" ???

[rudewarrior]

Originally Posted by DrJones

What mod is this?? -> " TheDarkWaith_Ship_Plane" ???

TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_V1_4_SH3 mod. It allows ships and planes to take damage from fires. Excellent mod. One cool thing about it is that you never know if the fires are actually causing damage to the ships are not. On top of that you still get credit for the sinking.

Originally Posted by machiavelli

SH3 renders ships and 3d models within 40km of the uboat, I think.

Can anyone confirm this? I'm curious as to what the actual number is.

Originally Posted by rudewarrior

TheDarkWraith_Ship_Plane_Fire_Damage_V1_4_SH3 mod. It allows ships and planes to take damage from fires. Excellent mod. One cool thing about it is that you never know if the fires are actually causing damage to the ships are not. On top of that you still get credit for the sinking.



Can anyone confirm this? I'm curious as to what the actual number is.

The easiest way to ensure what the distance is is to launch at Kiel, then go to external view using Shift to move fast, and follow the canal all the way up until the end of the map. Then find that end point on the nav map, and see what the distance is from there to the boat.