Texas advances bill to require drug screening for welfare

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, the amendments have been ignored for the past four years. What's another one being ignored?

[Skybird]

People must learn to take responsibility for themselves. Public money should not be spend for paying the consummation of drugs. I am for solidarity when somebody gets into trouble and falls down the social ladder due to accident, bad fate, disease. But it should be solidarity that shows in helping him to help himself. Not for sitting at home, taking other people's money and spending it for tons of softdrinks, cigarettes and huge flatscreen TVs.

Or worse: buying drugs. Maybe even trading them? Social wellfare to criminals? No inviting prospect for me. At best considering it for a program to help people abandoning the drug or criminal scene. Help them to help themselves.

Violating this principle - see Europe where it leads. It sends the social security system over the fiscal cliff. People in Europe do not want to realize it, but the simple truth is: the ambitious, excessive social wellfare state a la Europe, has failed. It is unsustainable and non-affordable over the long term. We wanted too much, we lost reasonable standards and sense of proportion.

[Tchocky]

What a load of silliness.

[GoldenRivet]

I have to consent to a drug test to draw my paycheck... whats the difference???

I move to pass a law to defund welfare and redirect those funds to a more useful end.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I have to consent to a drug test to draw my paycheck... whats the difference???

I'm drug-tested fairly often for work. No big deal, there's an actual solid reason for that, whereas this idea just seems silly.

To me, this idea is more about whipping up anti-welfare-cheat feeling rather than er, whatever it's supposed to be doing.

It can't be about making sure taxpayer's money isn't spent on drugs. If that were the idea, then you'd have to take a drug test to qualify for tax credits, qualify for electric car purchase credit, get health insurance for your kids in some cases. It goes on and on.

Oh yeah, and drug tests for everyone in the public sector before they get paid. So it's not about keeping money from druggies. It's about looking like you're getting tough on "takers".

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Skybird

People must learn to take responsibility for themselves. Public money should not be spend for paying the consummation of drugs.

Great. And exactly how many taxpayer dollars are you willing to spend to prove that point? We need politicians that will think fiscally and pragmatically, not ideologically.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

So it's not about keeping money from druggies. It's about looking like you're getting tough on "takers".

Exactly. It's a stunt for politicians to use in their next election campaign. And the taxpayer is the one footing the bill for it, because it ends up costing the state thousands of dollars. It's asinine.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

I move to pass a law to defund welfare and redirect those funds to a more useful end.

You like riots, huh?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

You like riots, huh?

They're ok with me. I'm sufficiently armed.

I don't know what America has against work, I completely fail to understand why we not only condone laziness and sloth and hind tit feeding within our populace... But we openly and actively go out if our way to promote it.

Pathetic

If Texas defunded welfare all those leeches would move to Louisiana or Oklahoma. I say push em up north lol

[Wolferz]

Great. More social experimentation known as dipping the public toe into the waters of a police state. Blind leading the blind. Corrupt assisting the corrupt by making the poor into the scapegoats for their own thievery using alleged drug addiction as the reasoning for a crackdown on the poor. It's pathetic how reasonably intelligent citizens can be so easily brainwashed by government propaganda.
In essence, I consider forced drug testing an unlawful act of illegal search without a warrant. Corporate America can get away with it by simply printing the rule in their employee handbook. But, no government entity can use it for any reason because it's unconstitutional!
Replacing the carrot with a stick will not motivate the mule to pull the cart.
The real welfare queens in this country are not poor. If the states and the feds want to save some money they should first cut their own exorbitant salaries, privileges and perks. Trim the fat out of every agency, then go after the poor.
Probably won't need to if that gets done.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Well, the amendments have been ignored for the past four years. What's another one being ignored?

Exactly. If they can infringe on the American peoples right to keep and bear arms they can certainly infringe on any other right with impunity.