Community projects?

[gap]

Originally Posted by keysersoze

Nope—it's just the only thing I could think of that would make it easy for many people to collaborate on one big project.

Just kidding Daniel,
lately the "are you by any chance working for ...?" phrase, in all its variation, has become the ubiquitous answer to someone who is proposing a good product/service here in the forum

Originally Posted by keysersoze

Actually, there are some drawbacks to using it. For one, I'm having trouble formatting the cells the way I want them.

Do you still have the file I sent you a while back? Can you redo it in google documents format?

Originally Posted by keysersoze

Here is a link to that special operations document. Have a look and tell me if you think it's a feasible format.

https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B4...it?usp=sharing

I think so. We don't really need such a complex spreadsheet for storing those data anyway. As far as we can set a basic formatting and add new rows/columns if required, any format is good. In case we need for more advanced options, we can always copy/paste the text in a traditional spreadsheet application

Originally Posted by keysersoze

P.S. You might be interested in the radio messages for U109's escort mission in November 1941.

Good stuff
I think that escort mission is listed in my compendum for OHII. Scripting those messages would be a nice addition if Trevally will ever implement this sort of missions.

Originally Posted by volodya61

count me in

Thanks Volodya! We are four:

volodya61
Targor Avelany
keysersoze
gap

Any new volunteer? Come on guys, we need to be at least 5 times this number

Originally Posted by volodya61

but I think I could not be very helpful to collect any historical information..
but I can be helpful in any other case

Not mutch historical information to colect Volodya: we just need to copy/paste coordinates from uboat.net to a spreadsheet, and to interpolate missing coordinated, if required. Boring task, I got to admit

Recording the number of torpedoes onboard at the beginning of each patrol (depending on U-boat models and other special ammo, like mines, eventually carried), and the cumulative number of ships sunk for each date is another idea I had for determining if each boat is available for support or not, but this information is also easily accesible from the same website, or from U-historia.com for the ones who understand a bit of Spanish. That's all

Originally Posted by volodya61

I need only to solve some problems with my PC and I will able to start..

I hope you solve the problem with your PC as soon as possible: we need for it nd its human operator

[V13dweller]

I don't expect my modding skill is what is needed here but, I normally just change weapons on ships, change direction on ship nodes, like my mod that redirects the rear depth charge nodes on the Soldati destroyer so it gains depth charge racks instead of KGuns, but I'm not sure if this skill is what is needed for this community project.
I do have quite a lot of spare time I could use for research or other menial tasks like that.

[keysersoze]

Originally Posted by V13dweller

I don't expect my modding skill is what is needed here but, I normally just change weapons on ships, change direction on ship nodes, like my mod that redirects the rear depth charge nodes on the Soldati destroyer so it gains depth charge racks instead of KGuns, but I'm not sure if this skill is what is needed for this community project.
I do have quite a lot of spare time I could use for research or other menial tasks like that.

V13dweller,

This sort of project requires absolutely NO modding ability whatsoever Anyone who can navigate to uboat.net, can copy and paste, and enjoys reading and learning about U-boats can participate.

[keysersoze]

Originally Posted by gap

Just kidding Daniel,
lately the "are you by any chance working for ...?" phrase, in all its variation, has become the ubiquitous answer to someone who is proposing a good product/service here in the forum

To be honest, I wish it was true...a high paying Google job would beat being a poor student

Originally Posted by gap

Do you still have the file I sent you a while back? Can you redo it in google documents format?

Yes, I believe I still have the file. I will see if I can get it into google documents format. By the way, I am completely open to any other suggestions if you think there is an easier or better way. I thought it might be easier for you if we could all collaborate on a single document, rather than if you were forced to assemble each person's spreadsheet into a larger document.

Originally Posted by gap

I think so. We don't really need such a complex spreadsheet for storing those data anyway. As far as we can set a basic formatting and add new rows/columns if required, any format is good. In case we need for more advanced options, we can always copy/paste the text in a traditional spreadsheet application

From what I know of it, Google documents are fairly rudimentary, which is both a good thing and a bad thing for a project like this.

Originally Posted by gap

Good stuff
I think that escort mission is listed in my compendum for OHII. Scripting those messages would be a nice addition if Trevally will ever implement this sort of missions.

I'm pretty sure I saw the Silva Plana escort mission mentioned in your additional missions mod for OHII, so I was sure to include the radio messages for it. By the way, if you can get a copy of Wolfgang Hirschfield's diary, you can read an interesting account of the mission (he was the chief radio operator on U109).

I am trying to add as many historical radio messages as I can for each mission from this site:

http://www.wwiiarchives.net/servlet/action/intercepts/0

Unfortunately, the ULTRA decrypts in that database do not cover the whole war.

[gap]

Originally Posted by V13dweller

I do have quite a lot of spare time I could use for research or other menial tasks like that.

another community project member in

Now we are:

V13dweller
volodya61
Targor Avelany
keysersoze
gap

Originally Posted by keysersoze

To be honest, I wish it was true...a high paying Google job would beat being a poor student

Not to dimish your respectable student status, but I got to agree with you about the google job

Originally Posted by keysersoze

Yes, I believe I still have the file. I will see if I can get it into google documents format. By the way, I am completely open to any other suggestions if you think there is an easier or better way. I thought it might be easier for you if we could all collaborate on a single document, rather than if you were forced to assemble each person's spreadsheet into a larger document.

From what I know of it, Google documents are fairly rudimentary, which is both a good thing and a bad thing for a project like this.

Despite the fact that I have never used google documents, I am sure that its spreadsheet functionalities will be more than enough for our purposes: this is a job that could be done with notepad

Originally Posted by keysersoze

I'm pretty sure I saw the Silva Plana escort mission mentioned in your additional missions mod for OHII, so I was sure to include the radio messages for it. By the way, if you can get a copy of Wolfgang Hirschfield's diary, you can read an interesting account of the mission (he was the chief radio operator on U109).

I will try to put my hands on this book. Thank you for your suggestion

Originally Posted by keysersoze

I am trying to add as many historical radio messages as I can for each mission from this site:

http://www.wwiiarchives.net/servlet/action/intercepts/0

Unfortunately, the ULTRA decrypts in that database do not cover the whole war.

Once more, interesting information on standing orders and boat/BdU/FdU messages can be found also on uboatarchive. Indices at the following pages:

http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB.htm
http://www.uboatarchive.net/KTBList.htm

[Sartoris]

I would be willing to contribute, but I work best when I am delegated duties. Don't rely on me to dig up some obscure sites or documents. If the leader of the project can provide me with a link and a clear-cut mission I will do my best to fulfill the task.

[gap]

Originally Posted by Sartoris

I would be willing to contribute, but I work best when I am delegated duties. Don't rely on me to dig up some obscure sites or documents. If the leader of the project can provide me with a link and a clear-cut mission I will do my best to fulfill the task.

Thank you Sartoris,

List update:

Sartoris
V13dweller
volodya61
Targor Avelany
keysersoze
gap

as we speak I am preparing some documentation explaining all you need to know before you start working on this projetc

[keysersoze]

Originally Posted by Sartoris

I would be willing to contribute, but I work best when I am delegated duties. Don't rely on me to dig up some obscure sites or documents. If the leader of the project can provide me with a link and a clear-cut mission I will do my best to fulfill the task.

Thanks Sartoris

Originally Posted by gap

Thank you Sartoris,
as we speak I am preparing some documentation explaining all you need to know before you start working on this projetc

Sounds good I converted your spreadsheet into Google docs format. Let me know what you think. I have not yet added the last two sheets (the ones with standard deviation and averages on them) because I honestly have no idea what they mean I remember you mentioned something about deducing torpedo loadouts by using some kind of formula--is this what those sheets are for?

[Sartoris]

Originally Posted by gap

Thank you Sartoris,

List update:

Sartoris
V13dweller
volodya61
Targor Avelany
keysersoze
gap

as we speak I am preparing some documentation explaining all you need to know before you start working on this projetc

Excellent, looking forward to it! I've actually been thinking about a project like this one for a while now, so I'm extremely happy to see so many others interested in it.

[Dogfish40]

Originally Posted by Sartoris

Excellent, looking forward to it! I've actually been thinking about a project like this one for a while now, so I'm extremely happy to see so many others interested in it.

Love doing any research WWII realted. If you need any further help, just point me in a direction. I love archiving and History.
Just drop me a line.
D40