"Ask the Man Who Owns One".

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yep, we were so much better off with Obama and Hillary running things, letting people die while ordering soldiers nearby to STAND DOWN and watched it live on tv as the ambassador and his team died in the street waiting for help that would never come. all to protect the lie that terrorists are on the run so they would look good for the election.

You should stop getting your "facts" and "ideas" (what few you have) from the Rush/Sean/Fox propaganda (and dare I say it?) hate mills and learn to do a little rational reasomung on your own (I know, it takes effort, but in the end you will be a better person)...

Here's a couple of points I don't seem to have heard mentioned much by the Far right:

1. No matter how fast the "available" troops/support were, they would never have been able to get to the site in time to save any of the victims;

2. Since 9/11, it has been SOP to not rush into a situation such as occurred in Libya; there is always a great possibility the first responders will enter an abush set for them by the entities who committed the first attack. Until a reasonable assessment has been made, no competent commander would send in troops blindly, especially in a situation where there was no possible chance of immediate rescue. Of course, if the White House/Pentagon had foillwed the sage advice of the non-veteran, armchair generals/strategists Limbaugh, et. al., and the responders had been ambushed and killed/wounded, that would of course still be the fault of the White House...

3. As far as looking "good for the election", a little logic goes a long way (sorry for the use of logic; I know it's alien to you): If there had been a chance to successfully rescue the embassy personnel and the mission had been carried out successfully, do you think that would hurt or helped the White House in the election? Or would the Far Right have decried the "rash sending in of trrops into harm's way"...

There are other consideration to be had about the Libya incident, but I'll let you try to do some actual research and maybe open your eyes and mind to real life and not get your "opinions" from a crawl at the bottom of the sreen on Fox News...

you have no credibility until you go after those on the left with the same hate and vitriol you do to those on the right, be fair and impartial in your hate.

I am no fan of either wing, far right or left and I am not a particular fan or supporter of the current administration. I am a really big fan and supporter of common sense, considered thought, and logic. Given the level of candidates presented to the public by the far right controlled GOP, there seems to be great lacking in common sense, thought and logic. However, there is hope: in the past couple of weeks there has been a push back against the GOP status quo and a move towrds fully realizing the empire of the Far Right has no clothes and effecting a change in the way the GOP approaches issues and candidates. I wish them luck in their new endeavours...

As far as the left goes, they are, for the most part, fairly benign. I don't see them as much of a threat. The dems didn't get into the White house because they won the past two elections; they got in because the GOP lost the last two elections. And the GOP really has no one to blame but themselves...

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