Gun Control thread (merged many)

August · 03-20-13, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I can see where you're coming from, it's a bit like wearing a uniform, when you're wearing it what you say is a representation of whatever service you are wearing the uniform of, rather than a personal opinion. That's something that has gotten a lot of people in real life into trouble as well and caused a lot of anger.
However I don't think that either of them are using their 'uniform' as a shield to hide behind, in fact I think both of them would say exactly the same things without it, if I'm honest.

I have no doubt that both of them speak from the heart. Just when they start mixing the personal with the official.

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I believe, that when Takeda speaks as a moderator he signs his post with 'The management' as so:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sear...archid=1537529

So, as long as it doesn't have 'The Management' attached to the end of the post, I think it's safe to assume that Takeda is speaking his personal opinion and not that of Subsim, likewise he is not acting in moderator fashion.

He didn't use that once today before he infracted me for defending myself against his personal attack. Maybe he just forgot.

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That being said, the breakdown in communications that has lead to this situation is from all parties, Takeda, Steve and yourself, it's like a cycle, one snide remark may lead to one in return, which creates a retaliatory response and we slowly climb the escalation ladder until someone gets brigged and/or the thread gets locked. I think that we have all got a little personal in the recent threads, and I think that all the members involved need to just step back and maintain a respectful distance from each other until the emotions and tempers have passed.

Just remember the old quote by a very wise old man:

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

I appreciate what you're trying to do Ob and thank you. I've put the matter to Neal. He's a fair man. We'll see what he says about it once he has a chance to check it out.

Takeda Shingen · 03-20-13, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by August

He didn't use that once today before he infracted me for defending myself against his personal attack. Maybe he just forgot.

Now that's just plain dishonest. You were infracted because you chased me into another thread, hijacked it and continued to fight with me, even after I posted a very specific warning. I didn't want to infract you, as you had been here since 2005 with a clean record but you forced my hand. And you can ask the other moderators; I wasn't happy about having to do it.

Now, I haven't been involved in this thread for awhile now, but I won't stand for falsehood. I know what I did, and it was both correct and within the bounds of moderation.

August · 03-21-13, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Now that's just plain dishonest. You were infracted because you chased me into another thread, hijacked it and continued to fight with me, even after I posted a very specific warning. I didn't want to infract you, as you had been here since 2005 with a clean record but you forced my hand. And you can ask the other moderators; I wasn't happy about having to do it.

Now, I haven't been involved in this thread for awhile now, but I won't stand for falsehood. I know what I did, and it was both correct and within the bounds of moderation.

Yeah like you never moved one of your arguments between threads.

Whether you think i'm being dishonest or not you did not use the title Ob said you used.

I want you out as moderator. I'll continue to advocate for just that.