Gun Control thread (merged many) - Page 12

August · 03-19-13, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And the main point is closed. The Senate has said that the ban will not be part of the bill.

It can and likely will still be brought up as an amendment.

vienna · 03-19-13, 05:12 PM

You're celebarting a non-event? Why? That bill was doomed before the ink was dry on the original submission. This is not a great victory anymore than the probable defeat of some of the GOPs measures in Congress is for the Dems. I get rather weary of either side touting a great victory when the outcome is already known. Now, if the bill had passed, that would be news. It all goes back to the old saw "Man Bites Dog? Now that's a story..."...

Better you concern yourself with the recently announced GOP scrapping of its "principles" and adopting a more (dare it be said?) Dem stance on issues. Save your anger for those in the GOP who are doing a 180 just for more votes...

BTW, I'm willing to guess you're probably a lousy dancer, too...

<O>

Ducimus · 03-19-13, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by August

It can and likely will still be brought up as an amendment.

Looking back,

I'd be more surprised if it wasn't brought up as an amendment. This ain't over. Not by a long shot.

03-19-13, 05:17 PM

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Thank God we tend to base our laws on reason rather than emotionalism.

Yet both sides on the arguement seem to using far more emotion than reason.

Good result though, Feisteins bill was dumb.

Red October1984 · 03-19-13, 05:17 PM

WOOHOO! I'm happy too! I had hoped this would happen.

Takeda Shingen · 03-19-13, 05:20 PM

Please read the forum before posting. The following thread was in the top 5 at the time of your post.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203106

Platapus · 03-19-13, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Please read the forum before posting. The following thread was in the top 5 at the time of your post.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203106

Yes but that was not a "yubba" thread so it does count.

Platapus · 03-19-13, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Thank God we tend to base our laws on reason rather than emotionalism.

What country do you live in? Can I move there?

Sailor Steve · 03-19-13, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Main point closed?

The point was the "2013 Assault Weapons Ban", which is now gone.

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Not really. They will never quit, and never give up. If they can't get what they want one way, they'll try another.

That's also true. But that's for the next attempt.

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Originally Posted by August

It can and likely will still be brought up as an amendment.

Yes it can. An amendment is even less likely to become reality. I'm not saying they're not there, or that they won't stop trying. I'm just saying that what had everbody screaming this time around is now gone.

Sailor Steve · 03-19-13, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Please read the forum before posting.

You're joking, right? Do you think he ever reads these threads? That's not why he's here.

August · 03-19-13, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Looking back,

Cybermat47 · 03-19-13, 06:22 PM

I think this can all be summed up with this:

You enjoy your country's laws, and I'll enjoy my country's laws.

Cybermat47 · 03-19-13, 06:29 PM

It sounds like what you Yanks ended up with is the best thing. More unforgiving penalties for illegal gun owners/suppliers.

By the way, what's with illegal gun owners getting guns in the first place? Does a legal gun owner buy the guns, then sell the weapons to the criminals? Hopefully the increased penalties will reduce this, but perhaps background checks could work as well?

August · 03-19-13, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The point was the "2013 Assault Weapons Ban", which is now gone.

That's also true. But that's for the next attempt.

Yes it can. An amendment is even less likely to become reality. I'm not saying they're not there, or that they won't stop trying. I'm just saying that what had everbody screaming this time around is now gone.

I'm just trying to have a productive discussion about guns Steve. Isn't that what everyone wanted?

To me productive is defined as holding the Democrats feet to the fire on this issue until it can be translated into enough votes to remove control of Congress from their traitorous little hands.

Bill Clinton was right to warn them about this. Believers in RKBA have been asleep in recent years but no more.

Ducimus · 03-19-13, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'm just saying that what had everbody screaming this time around is now gone.

Not entirely. Magazine restrictions and some of the specifics in the universal background check has many concerned.

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Originally Posted by August

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

By the way, what's with illegal gun owners getting guns in the first place?

They steal them, or buy them off someone who has already stolen them.

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Does a legal gun owner buy the guns, then sell the weapons to the criminals?

Unfortunately, yes. It's called a "Straw purchase". That's where you legally buy a gun for someone else who can't legally buy one.

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Hopefully the increased penalties will reduce this,

I hope so too.

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but perhaps background checks could work as well?

Doubtful. There's already a background check system in place. Frankly i'm not really sure if it will or not.

03-19-13, 05:12 PM	#167
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,521 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	You're celebarting a non-event? Why? That bill was doomed before the ink was dry on the original submission. This is not a great victory anymore than the probable defeat of some of the GOPs measures in Congress is for the Dems. I get rather weary of either side touting a great victory when the outcome is already known. Now, if the bill had passed, that would be news. It all goes back to the old saw "Man Bites Dog? Now that's a story..."... Better you concern yourself with the recently announced GOP scrapping of its "principles" and adopting a more (dare it be said?) Dem stance on issues. Save your anger for those in the GOP who are doing a 180 just for more votes... BTW, I'm willing to guess you're probably a lousy dancer, too... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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03-19-13, 06:22 PM	#177
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03-19-13, 06:29 PM	#178
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,386 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 22	It sounds like what you Yanks ended up with is the best thing. More unforgiving penalties for illegal gun owners/suppliers. By the way, what's with illegal gun owners getting guns in the first place? Does a legal gun owner buy the guns, then sell the weapons to the criminals? Hopefully the increased penalties will reduce this, but perhaps background checks could work as well? __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

03-19-13, 05:20 PM	#171
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Please read the forum before posting. The following thread was in the top 5 at the time of your post. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203106