Falklands Referendum Result

[August]

Originally Posted by Marcantilan

Besides that, this is a problem about land, not about people who live on it. I don´t think Argentina even think on evicting the islanders or sell their land or something in that line.

Doesn't matter. These people have a right to self determination. The islanders have decided they wish to remain British by overwhelming margins. There is really nothing else to be said.

[Marcantilan]

Originally Posted by August

Doesn't matter. These people have a right to self determination. The islanders have decided they wish to remain British by overwhelming margins. There is really nothing else to be said.

And British will remain!

However, UN pushed (since 1965) negotiations based on the interests and not the wishes of the islanders. And that´s not the same.

[Oberon]

I think what Marcantilan is trying to get across is that in Argentinas eyes, the islanders are squatting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting) on Argentinian land, whereas Britain claims it to be British land. The arguement is not about the islanders or their allegience but who owns the land that they're on.

The trouble is when you start backdating claims to territory then the modern US is squatting on various American tribes lands, Britain is squatting on god-alone-knows whose land, and let's not even get started on Belgium.

At the end of the day though, something that both Brits and Argentines will agree on is that this whole issue is being blown out of proportion by politicians seeking to distract the general public from economic troubles. For the most part, the British and Argentinian public have 'agreed to disagree' on the Falkland/Malvinas issue after the war and just want to get on with getting through this global recession.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I think what Marcantilan is trying to get across is that in Argentinas eyes, the islanders are squatting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting) on Argentinian land, whereas Britain claims it to be British land. The arguement is not about the islanders or their allegience but who owns the land that they're on.

The trouble is when you start backdating claims to territory then the modern US is squatting on various American tribes lands, Britain is squatting on god-alone-knows whose land, and let's not even get started on Belgium.

At the end of the day though, something that both Brits and Argentines will agree on is that this whole issue is being blown out of proportion by politicians seeking to distract the general public from economic troubles. For the most part, the British and Argentinian public have 'agreed to disagree' on the Falkland/Malvinas issue after the war and just want to get on with getting through this global recession.

I see what you're saying and agree though I think that to the Islanders themselves it must be somewhat disconcerting.

[Synthfg]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I think what Marcantilan is trying to get across is that in Argentinas eyes, the islanders are squatting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting) on Argentinian land, whereas Britain claims it to be British land. The arguement is not about the islanders or their allegience but who owns the land that they're on.

The trouble is when you start backdating claims to territory then the modern US is squatting on various American tribes lands, Britain is squatting on god-alone-knows whose land, and let's not even get started on Belgium.

At the end of the day though, something that both Brits and Argentines will agree on is that this whole issue is being blown out of proportion by politicians seeking to distract the general public from economic troubles. For the most part, the British and Argentinian public have 'agreed to disagree' on the Falkland/Malvinas issue after the war and just want to get on with getting through this global recession.

Britain doesn't claim the islands as British tho
The islands are self governing but have chosen to remain affiliated to Great Britain
The Islanders many of them 8th or 9th Generation can hardly be described as recent immigrants or colonists,
They are in effect an independent small nation who rely on the UK gov for support especially in foreign policy and defense matters

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Synthfg

Britain doesn't claim the islands as British tho
The islands are self governing but have chosen to remain affiliated to Great Britain
The Islanders many of them 8th or 9th Generation can hardly be described as recent immigrants or colonists,
They are in effect an independent small nation who rely on the UK gov for support especially in foreign policy and defense matters

Sadly those facts can be forgotten when there is the chance there are huge mineral and oil reserves in the area...and that goes for both sides.

[Marcantilan]

Suspend all referendums...

We are going to ask the Pope about it!

Doesn't matter. These people have a right to self determination. The islanders have decided they wish to remain British by overwhelming margins. There is really nothing else to be said.

British history says that is not the case.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Marcantilan

Suspend all referendums...

We are going to ask the Pope about it!

Quite a suprise to many but I imagine quite an honour for your country