Emergency hearing over Abu Qatada

eddie · 03-10-13, 01:15 PM

The UK has their own nutjob to deal with, and we have ours! At least we have him in court though.

http://news.msn.com/us/bin-laden-spo...guilty-to-plot

Jimbuna · 03-10-13, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

The UK has their own nutjob to deal with, and we have ours! At least we have him in court though.

http://news.msn.com/us/bin-laden-spo...guilty-to-plot

Nice one...if it were my decision I's deport hom and pay the EU or whoever the paltry fine that would be levied...gotta be cheaper than keeping him and his family over here on benefits.

eddie · 03-10-13, 02:12 PM

Why is it so hard to deport him Jim?

Jimbuna · 03-10-13, 02:17 PM

His lawyers claim the Jordanian government will use evidence gained as a result of torture to convict him.

They also claim he will be at risk of torture himself despite undertaking to the contrary from the Jordanians.

As a result the EU court of human rights overruled our own high courts decision to allow him to be extradited.

Something along those lines anyway.

eddie · 03-10-13, 02:40 PM

That really stinks that a court in the EU can over rule the UK's highest court!!!

Jimbuna · 03-10-13, 03:34 PM

That is precisely why a number of Brits (growing daily) are all for pulling out of the EU.

Betonov · 03-10-13, 03:51 PM

Like the EU has the nerves to do anything after you flip the bird and deport him anyway.
You're the UK. Too big a dog to be on a tight leash

Skybird · 03-10-13, 06:56 PM

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03-11-13, 02:42 AM

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Dan D · 03-12-13, 03:26 AM

Mindless rant.

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You are confusing the European Court of Human Rights with the European Court of Justice!

WTH has the EU to do with the Abu Qatada case?

The European Court of Human Rights (Strassbourg) was established under the European Convention on Human Rights of 1950 as a consequence of WW II on initiative by Britain. The convention is adopted by the so-called Council of Europe. The Council of Europe is distinct from the EU which has 27 member states and consists of 47 member states , such as Russia, Ukraine and Turkey. Russia e.g. is not a member of the EU, right?

Some EU member states are members of the Council of Europe but not all members of the Council of Europe are EU members.

The European Court of Justice (Luxembourg City) is an EU institution.

The European Court of Justice does not deal with Criminal law cases because Criminal law belongs to the national law systems and not to the EU law system, simple as that. There is no EU criminal law.

So you could do all you want, leave the EU,arrest the EU representatives and the EU court's judges and even shoot them, this is pointless in the context of the Abu Quatada case.

The European Court of Human Rights would still be there to make decisions that are binding because your country is a member of the Council of Europe and signed the European Charta of Human Rights.

You would have to leave the Council of Europe instead! (no EU institution)
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EU, you don't like it. I think I understood that. But why oh why?

Skybird · 03-27-13, 09:31 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21955844

I don't believe this. I just don't believe this.

They laugh in our faces while we make total idiots of ourselves.

03-27-13, 10:46 AM

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I don't believe this. I just don't believe this.

Why?
How could the ruling be any different?

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They laugh in our faces while we make total idiots of ourselves.

You would make a total idiot of yourself by changing the law to allow torture in legal cases.

03-10-13, 02:17 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	His lawyers claim the Jordanian government will use evidence gained as a result of torture to convict him. They also claim he will be at risk of torture himself despite undertaking to the contrary from the Jordanians. As a result the EU court of human rights overruled our own high courts decision to allow him to be extradited. Something along those lines anyway. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-10-13, 03:34 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	That is precisely why a number of Brits (growing daily) are all for pulling out of the EU. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-12-13, 03:26 AM	#10
Dan D Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 9th Flotilla Posts: 839 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mindless rant. (copy and past from an older post): You are confusing the European Court of Human Rights with the European Court of Justice! WTH has the EU to do with the Abu Qatada case? The European Court of Human Rights (Strassbourg) was established under the European Convention on Human Rights of 1950 as a consequence of WW II on initiative by Britain. The convention is adopted by the so-called Council of Europe. The Council of Europe is distinct from the EU which has 27 member states and consists of 47 member states , such as Russia, Ukraine and Turkey. Russia e.g. is not a member of the EU, right? Some EU member states are members of the Council of Europe but not all members of the Council of Europe are EU members. The European Court of Justice (Luxembourg City) is an EU institution. The European Court of Justice does not deal with Criminal law cases because Criminal law belongs to the national law systems and not to the EU law system, simple as that. There is no EU criminal law. So you could do all you want, leave the EU,arrest the EU representatives and the EU court's judges and even shoot them, this is pointless in the context of the Abu Quatada case. The European Court of Human Rights would still be there to make decisions that are binding because your country is a member of the Council of Europe and signed the European Charta of Human Rights. You would have to leave the Council of Europe instead! (no EU institution) [/QUote] EU, you don't like it. I think I understood that. But why oh why? __________________

03-27-13, 09:31 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,698 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21955844 I don't believe this. I just don't believe this. They laugh in our faces while we make total idiots of ourselves. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-10-13, 01:15 PM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	The UK has their own nutjob to deal with, and we have ours! At least we have him in court though. http://news.msn.com/us/bin-laden-spo...guilty-to-plot

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Why is it so hard to deport him Jim?

03-10-13, 02:40 PM	#5
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	That really stinks that a court in the EU can over rule the UK's highest court!!!

03-10-13, 03:51 PM	#7
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Like the EU has the nerves to do anything after you flip the bird and deport him anyway. You're the UK. Too big a dog to be on a tight leash