TSA Will Permit Knives, Golf Clubs on U.S. Planes

Red October1984 · 03-08-13, 10:32 PM

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Don't be so paranoid RedOctober next you are going to tell us about how the new digital kilowatt hour meters are used to control you by the government.I actually overheard people saying this in public once I was drinking a soda and it nearly came out of my nose.

I'm not THAT paranoid. I'm just perceptive...wary...curious...etc. Stuff like that. I may seem like that on the internet because I don't know any of you. (Except for the user Slugger. I've spent pretty much my whole life with that guy. Looks like I need to tell him to post some more.

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I'd like to know how, if possible, you could use Kilowatt Hour Meters to control somebody. Not that I'd actually do it. That would be wrong. Technical things like how stuff works and how you can use stuff to your advantage interest me.... Maybe I would be a good Engineer or something. I'm keeping my options open in case something happens where I can't join the Air Force.

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If you want to be a pilot in the USAF you had better practice better memory you dont want to leave some vital part of your gear behind.I can see you walking along the flightline without a line badge and have a member of Security Forces give you the "Unauthorized personal interview"(conducted at the business end of a firearm).

I've got good memory. Like I said, I've only forgotten about my knife twice since I started carrying it around. (Close to a year ago when I realized the value of having a knife with you. They can be useful tools to have) I'm sure they will drill good memory into me during whatever Officer School I pick whether it be the Academy or ROTC. I don't forget stuff I use every day. If I use it two or three times a week...there's a greater chance that i'll forget where I set something. The line badge would be something important and I'd probably be using it often if I was a pilot. The prospect of being interrogated by Security doesn't sound too great. I'm a quick learner... When I forgot about my knife those two times, I remembered it pretty quickly. If I was walking to the flight line, I'd check and see if I forgot something. If I did...well...I probably would have a "

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ETR3(SS) · 03-09-13, 02:01 AM

I'd have to disagree with those of you stating that airline passengers would gang tackle a terrorist on a flight. The general American public has the courage of an ostrich. They don't want to get hurt or die. Ironically they'd probably only think of the short term (i.e. the knife) versus the long term (the plane crashing) in their self preservation thought process. If anyone did do anything I would see it being the 65 year old Vietnam vet instead of the 21 year old intern. We've been turned into a bunch of couch potato, bon bon eating, reality tv show watching pansies.

Betonov · 03-09-13, 02:56 AM

What about all the Call of Duty fanboys living out their wet dreams assaulting the enemy of freedom and making a Leeroy Jenkins that would look like a zerg rush on the unexpecting terrorists

Platapus · 03-09-13, 03:56 PM

The bottom line is that no one knows how they will react in that situation. It is just like being exposed to combat for the first time. People you least expect will rise to the occasion, while some of the real tough talkers will hang back.

Forget the Vietnam vets or the 21 year olds. The hijackers need to worry about the mothers on the plane.

Feuer Frei! · 03-09-13, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I'd have to disagree with those of you stating that airline passengers would gang tackle a terrorist on a flight. The general American public has the courage of an ostrich.

Possibly, although Ostriches are known for the brazen attacks on colourful clothing items on unsuspecting Humans

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They don't want to get hurt or die.

That and maybe they have the notion in their heads of "Don't try to be a Hero" Hell, no way in the world are you going to know what a person is like in cqc or hand-to-hand with a knife. Unless you see the guy in 'action' then you may well be advised to sit this one out.

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If anyone did do anything I would see it being the 65 year old Vietnam vet instead of the 21 year old intern. We've been turned into a bunch of couch potato, bon bon eating, reality tv show watching pansies.

True that.

August · 03-09-13, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I'd have to disagree with those of you stating that airline passengers would gang tackle a terrorist on a flight. The general American public has the courage of an ostrich. They don't want to get hurt or die. Ironically they'd probably only think of the short term (i.e. the knife) versus the long term (the plane crashing) in their self preservation thought process. If anyone did do anything I would see it being the 65 year old Vietnam vet instead of the 21 year old intern. We've been turned into a bunch of couch potato, bon bon eating, reality tv show watching pansies.

Then explain United flight 93.

August · 03-09-13, 10:36 AM

And another thing. I wouldn't dis 21 year olds. That 21 year old intern just might have already done a tour in Afghanistan and have way more actual combat experience than the Vietnam Veteran.

Betonov · 03-09-13, 10:49 AM

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Then explain United flight 93.

He already did

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They don't want to get hurt or die.

They fought back when they knew they were going to be used as a bomb.

August · 03-09-13, 11:48 AM

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He already did

Well I disagree with his conclusions. I also disagree with his characterization of 21 year olds.

Betonov · 03-09-13, 01:09 PM

Pasengers just need a leader. Someone will stand up, could be a 21 year old, the bold with follow, then the rest of them will find the courage to join. A snowball effect.

Red October1984 · 03-09-13, 01:37 PM

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Pasengers just need a leader. Someone will stand up, could be a 21 year old, the bold with follow, then the rest of them will find the courage to join. A snowball effect.

This reminds me of that scene in the 2008 version of Get Smart...

03-09-13, 02:01 AM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I'd have to disagree with those of you stating that airline passengers would gang tackle a terrorist on a flight. The general American public has the courage of an ostrich. They don't want to get hurt or die. Ironically they'd probably only think of the short term (i.e. the knife) versus the long term (the plane crashing) in their self preservation thought process. If anyone did do anything I would see it being the 65 year old Vietnam vet instead of the 21 year old intern. We've been turned into a bunch of couch potato, bon bon eating, reality tv show watching pansies. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

03-09-13, 03:56 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,407 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The bottom line is that no one knows how they will react in that situation. It is just like being exposed to combat for the first time. People you least expect will rise to the occasion, while some of the real tough talkers will hang back. Forget the Vietnam vets or the 21 year olds. The hijackers need to worry about the mothers on the plane. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,244 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And another thing. I wouldn't dis 21 year olds. That 21 year old intern just might have already done a tour in Afghanistan and have way more actual combat experience than the Vietnam Veteran. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	What about all the Call of Duty fanboys living out their wet dreams assaulting the enemy of freedom and making a Leeroy Jenkins that would look like a zerg rush on the unexpecting terrorists

03-09-13, 01:09 PM	#10
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Pasengers just need a leader. Someone will stand up, could be a 21 year old, the bold with follow, then the rest of them will find the courage to join. A snowball effect.