DHS buying armored cars

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

But last I checked utility companies weren't part of your federal conglomerate so I don't see the reason for their inclusion.

And apparently not without someone in government trying to dismiss that stink. What you say may be true, now, but that still doesn't justify Federal law enforcement obtaining armored vehicles.

Stick to providing blankets and bottled water and there won't be a stink.

The inclusion of the electrical crews is as stated, people helping people. States helping states. You have seen many times of this activity after a storm. It is an example of the system that for some feel is being brought down by a purchase of armor vehicles and such.

There are a lot of things the Fed does that is not justifiable. Such as your paying for universal healthcare. Does it make it right then to purchase these vehicles because the Fed does a lot of unjustifiable things? Certainly not. Has anyone asked what these will be used for? Border protection? Not that I can find.

FEMA sticks to blankest and bottled water. Plus 4 wheel driver vehicles, front end loaders. John Deere gators and a plethora of other vehicles. But, the article says the DHS purchased these. Not FEMA. Again, the DHS is all agencies. These could go to ICE and other agencies that have a need.

[TLAM Strike]

Hmmm what part of DHS could need armored vehicles...

... oh... what about the division that has been operating them since the 40's; the US Secret Service?

The USSS is in charge of protecting not just POTUS and the VP but other heads of state on visits to the US and in some instances foreign embassies. The USSS also has several tactical response teams that might need a MRAP type vehicle to complete their mission.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Has anyone asked what these will be used for? Border protection? Not that I can find.

Then you didn't read the opening paragraph of the Business Insider article I linked to in the OP.

The Department of Homeland Security is using 16 military-style, mine-resistant ambush protected vehicles for use during "high-risk warrants," according to an official spokesman.

That's "High risk warrants", not border security, not delivering water bottles or blankets. These are combat vehicles and that's apparently what they are going to be used for unless you have some information to the contrary.

[yubba]

I keep hearing that they are getting over a thousand units,, any truth in that ???

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by yubba

I keep hearing that they are getting over a thousand units,, any truth in that ???

Think you're mixing this with the 1000+ Dolphins taught to walk on land and take away your guns in the midst of night they ordered.

Or was that the ants with microchips they plant in you during the night, always mix the two.

[yubba]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Think you're mixing this with the 1000+ Dolphins taught to walk on land and take away your guns in the midst of night they ordered.

Or was that the ants with microchips they plant in you during the night, always mix the two.

happened in Simpsons

[August]

Apparently the ACLU sees this as a problem too:

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has launched a nationwide campaign to assess police militarization in the United States. Starting Wednesday, ACLU affiliates in 23 states are sending open records requests to hundreds of state and local police agencies requesting information about their SWAT teams, such as how often and for what reasons they're deployed, what types of weapons they use, how often citizens are injured during SWAT raids, and how they're funded. More affiliates may join the effort in the coming weeks. Additionally, the affiliates will ask for information about drones, GPS tracking devices, how much military equipment the police agencies have obtained through programs run through the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security, and how often and for what purpose state National Guards are participating in enforcement of drug laws.
"We've known for a while now that American neighborhoods are increasingly being policed by cops armed with the weapons and tactics of war," said Kara Dansky, senior counsel at the ACLU's Center for Justice, which is coordinating the investigation. "The aim of this investigation is to find out just how pervasive this is, and to what extent federal funding is incentivizing this trend."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2813334.html

[AVGWarhawk]

ACLU is just one of the watch dogs.

[August]

Originally Posted by yubba

I keep hearing that they are getting over a thousand units,, any truth in that ???

Nope.

You nailed it sir. Lock, stock and barrel.

Well it isn't rocket science, that woukld be another evil government agency

The whole subject is easily dealt with.
But the problem is that when faced with simple answers they don't like because they already have the conspiracy fixed in their head they resort to another "but why?", which is also easily answered only to be followed with another "but why?", answer that one and you get another "but why?". Then it comes full circle and goes back to the first"but why?" as they cannot move from their already fixed view.

Look at the latest.

That's "High risk warrants", not border security, not delivering water bottles or blankets. These are combat vehicles and that's apparently what they are going to be used for unless you have some information to the contrary.

High risk warrants that are border security.
Armed gangs involved in human trafficing across the border.
Simple isn't it.
Armed gangs involved in international drug smuggling.
Hey thats even better, plus as its the evil DHS at issue it leads to "why oh why does the coast guard have warships?"
So is that damn evil sneaky DHS secretly buying warships to oppress the people
or is it border security and combatting drug smugglers at sea. For good measure you can also throw in disaster relief on that one too .