DHS buying armored cars - Page 2

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-13, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Drones, Police Infantry, armored vehicles, secret courts, detention without trial, warrant-less searches. Yeah you must be right, nothing to see here...

Drones, a new tech. What is the difference between a drone and a police helicopter? One manned, the other not. What is the point of this comment? Infantry? A bunch of cops together usually is for riots. Riots have occurred for decades. Watts comes to mind. Detention without trial. Do you have a particular case in mind? Warrant-less searches? Gone of for decades. You are painting a horse a different color. It is however the same horse.

August · 03-05-13, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Drones, a new tech. What is the difference between a drone and a police helicopter? One manned, the other not.

What is the point of this comment? Infantry? A bunch of cops together usually is for riots. Riots have occurred for decades. Watts comes to mind. Detention without trial. Do you have a particular case in mind? Warrant-less searches? Gone of for decades. You are painting a horse a different color. It is however the same horse.

Doesn't matter how long they have gotten away with it. I see it all as links in the same chain. Apparently you don't.

Betonov · 03-05-13, 12:29 PM

It's a PR stunt, like our police showed of their new water cannon and sang praises about how effective and modern we will be fighting riots....

It was used for 10 years as a mobile garden hose. Saw some action in december, used against 5 rioters.

TLAM Strike · 03-05-13, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Very soon there will be Huey armed to the teeth for crowd control.

Naw they will use modified Gazelles.

Catfish · 03-05-13, 02:02 PM

Don't forget the estimated 30,000 drones patroling the US, in the next years

They will be used everywhere of course, not only in the US, for whatever purpose ..

There's one advantage however, with all the eMail traffic and surveillance videos to check in the US alone by NSA, CIA, FBI, whatever, there will never be unemployment again

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-13, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Doesn't matter how long they have gotten away with it. I see it all as links in the same chain. Apparently you don't.

August, I work daily with the TSA, FEMA, DHS and the other entities encompassed within. There is no chain sir.

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-13, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Naw they will use modified Gazelles.

I watched Blue Thunder in the movie theaters. That will date me for sure.

The whisper mode scene with chick in the window. Sweet.

AVGWarhawk · 03-05-13, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

It's a PR stunt, like our police showed of their new water cannon and sang praises about how effective and modern we will be fighting riots....

It was used for 10 years as a mobile garden hose. Saw some action in december, used against 5 rioters.

Platapus · 03-05-13, 04:34 PM

Although it tends to kill the tin-foil hat conspiracy angle, one should remember that ICE has offices overseas.

According to this document

http://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/OIG_10-38_Jan10.pdf

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Vehicle Acquisitions for Field Offices
Prior to FY 2008, individual attaché offices completed the
procurement process for all vehicles overseas. After learning that
a senior ICE OIA official at one post was able to steer $2.8 million
in sole source U.S. government contracts to a foreign company for
purchasing and armoring vehicles, ICE OIA implemented changes
to its vehicle acquisition process. Specifically, ICE OIA
headquarters now conducts the acquisition of armored vehicles for
all overseas offices and sole source purchases are not allowed. All
armored vehicles must now be purchased and armored in the
United States and then shipped to the foreign post

That's what the armored vehicles are purchased for.

BTW, in FY 2008 when G W Bush was in office, ICE spent several million dollars in acquiring armored vehicles. Where was the "concern" then?

Platapus · 03-05-13, 04:41 PM

FYI

ICE has 71 offices in 47 countries.

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/120...shingtondc.htm

geetrue · 03-05-13, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

FYI

ICE has 71 offices in 47 countries.

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/120...shingtondc.htm

I love ICE especially when they are on Border Wars shows.

They look very professional more so than Homeland Security, are you sure they call themselves DHS?

I never heard that one before.

Why don't they save some money here and use President Obama's old Canadian built campaign buses lol

The Truth: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/greyhound1.htm

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The Federal Government acquired two new buses that cost $1.1 Million each. The basic touring coaches were built in Canada but they were purchased from a dealer in Tennessee who specially modified them to accommodate the President or candidates under the protection of the Secret Service.

Stealhead · 03-05-13, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by geetrue

I love ICE especially when they are on Border Wars shows.

They look very professional more so than Homeland Security, are you sure they call themselves DHS?

I never heard that one before.

Why don't they save some money here and use President Obama's old Canadian built campaign buses lol

The Truth: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/greyhound1.htm

I am certain that they are a part of DHS: http://www.ice.gov/about/overview/

geetrue · 03-05-13, 05:36 PM

Lots of DHS's out there I didn't know about:

Related Searches

Learn something new everyday ... that's what I'll do to stay away from the VA second floor
( that's where they keep the you know what's)

Stealhead · 03-05-13, 05:44 PM

Those are for various states Department of Human Services and are not related to the Department of Homeland Security same acronym different meaning.

Here is a list of what agencies are a part of the Department of Homeland Security top of page right hand side under "Child Agencies" :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...eland_Security

Never mind you are making fun of yourself in your last post I believe.

geetrue · 03-05-13, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Those are for various states Department of Human Services and are not related to the Department of Homeland Security same acronym different meaning.

Here is a list of what agencies are a part of the Department of Homeland Security top of page right hand side under "Child Agencies" :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...eland_Security

Never mind you are making fun of yourself in your last post I believe.

Yes, I was making fun of myself ... I'm kind of old, but you sir have pointed me in the right direction.

This is why I just call them the Dr. Pepper agencies

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the creation of DHS constituted the most significant government reorganization since the Cold War,[ and the most substantial reorganization of federal agencies since the National Security Act of 1947, which placed the different military departments under a secretary of defense and created the National Security Council and Central Intelligence Agency.

DHS also constitutes the most diverse merger of federal functions and responsibilities, incorporating 22 government agencies into a single organization.

03-05-13, 04:41 PM	#25
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,429 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	FYI ICE has 71 offices in 47 countries. http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/120...shingtondc.htm __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-05-13, 05:36 PM	#28
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Lots of DHS's out there I didn't know about: Related Searches DHS Minnesota DHS Arkansas DHS Illinois DHS Oregon DHS Housing DHS Forms DHS Iowa Michigan DHS Learn something new everyday ... that's what I'll do to stay away from the VA second floor ( that's where they keep the you know what's) __________________

03-05-13, 12:29 PM	#18
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	It's a PR stunt, like our police showed of their new water cannon and sang praises about how effective and modern we will be fighting riots.... It was used for 10 years as a mobile garden hose. Saw some action in december, used against 5 rioters.

03-05-13, 02:02 PM	#20
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,820 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Don't forget the estimated 30,000 drones patroling the US, in the next years They will be used everywhere of course, not only in the US, for whatever purpose .. There's one advantage however, with all the eMail traffic and surveillance videos to check in the US alone by NSA, CIA, FBI, whatever, there will never be unemployment again

03-05-13, 05:44 PM	#29
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Those are for various states Department of Human Services and are not related to the Department of Homeland Security same acronym different meaning. Here is a list of what agencies are a part of the Department of Homeland Security top of page right hand side under "Child Agencies" :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...eland_Security Never mind you are making fun of yourself in your last post I believe.