Stopping by to gloat....;

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

So your argument is now down to Godwin. Obama is Hitler. Of course, earlier you said that Obama wasn't Hitler, but that was a retraction of your original post in where Obama was originally Hitler. One of the hallmarks of a conspiracy theorist is the inability to hold positions due to the paper-like strength of their foundational proof. And so, you change your position literally with every post.

There you go again. I was not comparing him to Hitler, I was asserting given the evidence, his actions as an adult that he still harbors the angry racial feelings. I was being sarcastic saying "I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context as well?" lighten up sally.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

There you go again. I was not comparing him to Hitler, I was asserting given the evidence, his actions as an adult that he still harbors the angry racial feelings. I was being sarcastic saying "I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context as well?" lighten up sally.

From your first post:

On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany . Regardless of their name, Obama’s Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth! Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s “Youth Corps”, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country!

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders, “Homeland Youth”. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing!

From the post in question.

I understand the concept but again, it's a false argument to say his quotes are taken out of context.Want context? This book was authored when he needed money and had no clue he'd be president(this was before soros started being his political sugar daddie) , he was honest about how he felt. I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context too? lol

You're really bad at this, kid.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

From your first post:



From the post in question.



You're really bad at this, kid.

Actually, I do quite well at this.You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama." I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic liberty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's crap of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Actually, I do quite well at this.You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama." I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.

Right. Like a guy that gets hit by a truck and mutters "but...I'm.......okay......" Every point that you have made has been countered, and repeatedly. You just can't bring yourself to face the fact that the things you have been told are simply not true. I do have simpathy for you, as I have been down that road too. In fact, such empathy is the only reason that I am having this conversation with you.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic librty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's the poision of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.

So you're changing your position.....again. And if I were to deconstruct that one, like I did to your others, you will change it once more and we can have another go-around on the endless wheel of absurdity. Nothing I haven't seen before.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama."

Really? That's a classic but very bad debate tactic. Claim that people have privately supported you but don't want to do it publicly. That claim can't be opposed, because that would require quoting a PM, which is very much against the rules. Because of that you also don't have to support it, for the same reasons. Anybody can claim anything. If someone doesn't step forward to support you now, we can assume you were lying.

I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.

Takeda just showed in your own words that you did. Denying it now makes you look less than honest, and less than smart. You second phrase "...but one cannot ignore some similarities", is a failed attempt to be subtle. "I didn't say it, but now that you mention it, I'll try to point it out without actually saying it."

He's right. You really aren't very good at this.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.

Even if we were to assume that was true, it's no worse than many presidents have been, and it has nothing to do with your original claim of secret training camps to take over the country.

I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic liberty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's crap of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.

Now you change the subject again. You "know" he despises the Constitution? How do you "know"?

Your argument against Progressivism might actually garner some agreement and support, if it wasn't for all the insane blather about secret camps and racism. As I've tried to show you many times, and you still haven't figured out, you might actually get some agreement if you could learn that you don't know anything. It is all opinion, and trying to sway people to yours depends on being able to say it the right way, which you seem incapable of doing. Learn to discuss, not preach.

[Dammit_Carl!]

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