About time to send this petition off to Ubisoft for the SDK?

02-27-13, 03:08 PM

About time to send this petition off to Ubisoft for the SDK?

I'd like to be living when this happens. Seriously, life is too short and I'm bound to get cancer.

Let's move this along please.

Sailor Steve · 02-27-13, 05:59 PM

Go ahead and copy every post and send it yourself. Do not do so in the name of Subsim, however. That thread was started by one person, not the website or its owner, and though it is a sticky I think you'll find that it's not officially sanctioned. If you go to that trouble you'll probably find that Ubisoft has been aware of it all along, and doesn't care.

Hinrich Schwab · 02-27-13, 06:01 PM

It won't happen. The last time anything came close was when Projekt Messerwetzer came out for SHII/DC, which was an authorized 3rd Party Patch. Ubisoft has made it abundantly clear that they will not cooperate with Subsim in any way, let alone the sim community and its modders.

Sailor Steve · 02-27-13, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hinrich Schwab

Ubisoft has made it abundantly clear that they will not cooperate with Subsim in any way

That's not true. It was Ubisoft, or at least their hired developers, who paid for Neal to fly to Germany for a first-hand look at SHO. You're right about the other part, though. Though SH3 has pretty much been left behind, they're very unlikely to give up that kind of access without being first given a whole lot of money first. Also, if you read through the thread you'll see that most of the major modders have already said that even if they were given the code now, so much time and effort has been spent working around it that no one really wants to start over from scratch, code or not.

Also, parts of that same code went into creating SH4 and SH5, so to give it up would also open those games, which might seem like a good idea to a gamer, but to the company would mean giving up some of their copyrighted material.

Bottom line: All the petitions in the world are unlikely to make a difference.

02-27-13, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Bottom line: All the petitions in the world are unlikely to make a difference.

Bottom line is: This petition is worth less then the cost of sending it to Ubi through the 'Net.

I'd not be surprised if they billed you for useing bandwidth to recieve it.

HW3 · 02-27-13, 11:01 PM

The only way UBI would give up the SDK, is to sell it to another company. They will not just give it away to a group of individuals if they think there is any money to be had from it. The fact that someone wants it, tells them it is still worth some money to them, and let the bidding begin as far as they are concerned.

kethon · 02-27-13, 11:40 PM

The only way is Reverse engineering the game,but it's illegal.

Jimbuna · 02-28-13, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That's not true. It was Ubisoft, or at least their hired developers, who paid for Neal to fly to Germany for a first-hand look at SHO. You're right about the other part, though. Though SH3 has pretty much been left behind, they're very unlikely to give up that kind of access without being first given a whole lot of money first. Also, if you read through the thread you'll see that most of the major modders have already said that even if they were given the code now, so much time and effort has been spent working around it that no one really wants to start over from scratch, code or not.

Also, parts of that same code went into creating SH4 and SH5, so to give it up would also open those games, which might seem like a good idea to a gamer, but to the company would mean giving up some of their copyrighted material.

Bottom line: All the petitions in the world are unlikely to make a difference.

Rgr that

RConch · 02-28-13, 10:58 AM

Why don't we just remove the "sticky" and move on. I don't get why it is still up. All the reasons given by others explains why it won't happen.

Sailor Steve · 02-28-13, 11:04 AM

The person who originally stickied it is no longer an active moderator. There are two for this particular forum, and only they can "un-sticky" it.

RConch · 02-28-13, 01:19 PM

That didn't work out so well.

CaptainCruise · 02-28-13, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rconch

That didn't work out so well.

Try to look at the bright side of all this. We have a game that when released by UBI was a absolute train wreck, yet through the hard work by members of this website "family" they managed to reshape Silent Hunter III into something that is not only 250% better than it was when released, but enhanced with so many different modifications it almost feels like a new game every time you play. How many communities out there can make that same claim with little or no help from the game designers.

WAIT!! THERE'S MORE!!

Did we stop there? Nope. When SH4 and SH5 were released a few years later in similar "train wreck" condition, our community got together again and went to work fixing the problems and developing all new mods for THOSE games. So, what have we got to show for all that hard work? We have 3 pretty solid games, modded to the max, that we can enjoy and be proud of for years to come. Think of the profits UBI might have scored if they came HALF as close as this community did with these games. That's something each and every one of us can be proud of as a member of this family. I say family a lot because that's what I see. I see people from different backgrounds seperated by thousands of miles...who have forged solid friendships over many years. We came together and made our community better, and God willing we'll always have that.

All of that for couple af games....sheesh, can I rant or what?!?!

Seriously...don't sweat the lack of help or interest from UBI. We've managed to do OK on our own, and we'll continue to do so, as long as we have each other and our "family".

Thanks, mah friends!!
Tom "CC"

RConch · 03-01-13, 06:10 AM

Nice rant there.

The only thing I was refering to was giving the Mods "unremovable stickies power".

Takeda Shingen · 03-01-13, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rconch

Nice rant there.

The only thing I was refering to was giving the Mods "unremovable stickies power".

We don't have "unremovable stickes powers". The individuals listed as moderator for this individual forum can remove the sticky. My suggestion to is to that you contact one of them directly and discuss it with him, as this will get you further than talking about it here.

RConch · 03-01-13, 10:38 AM

Don't get your pink panties in a twist-I couldn't care less-just made a suggestion matey.

02-27-13, 03:08 PM	#1
machiavelli Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	About time to send this petition off to Ubisoft for the SDK? About time to send this petition off to Ubisoft for the SDK? I'd like to be living when this happens. Seriously, life is too short and I'm bound to get cancer. Let's move this along please.

02-27-13, 05:59 PM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Go ahead and copy every post and send it yourself. Do not do so in the name of Subsim, however. That thread was started by one person, not the website or its owner, and though it is a sticky I think you'll find that it's not officially sanctioned. If you go to that trouble you'll probably find that Ubisoft has been aware of it all along, and doesn't care. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-27-13, 11:01 PM	#6
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	The only way UBI would give up the SDK, is to sell it to another company. They will not just give it away to a group of individuals if they think there is any money to be had from it. The fact that someone wants it, tells them it is still worth some money to them, and let the bidding begin as far as they are concerned. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

02-28-13, 10:58 AM	#9
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	Why don't we just remove the "sticky" and move on. I don't get why it is still up. All the reasons given by others explains why it won't happen. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

02-28-13, 11:04 AM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The person who originally stickied it is no longer an active moderator. There are two for this particular forum, and only they can "un-sticky" it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-27-13, 06:01 PM	#3
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	It won't happen. The last time anything came close was when Projekt Messerwetzer came out for SHII/DC, which was an authorized 3rd Party Patch. Ubisoft has made it abundantly clear that they will not cooperate with Subsim in any way, let alone the sim community and its modders.

02-27-13, 11:40 PM	#7
kethon Nub Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The only way is Reverse engineering the game,but it's illegal.

02-28-13, 01:19 PM	#11
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	That didn't work out so well. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

03-01-13, 06:10 AM	#13
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	Nice rant there. The only thing I was refering to was giving the Mods "unremovable stickies power". __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

03-01-13, 10:38 AM	#15
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	Don't get your pink panties in a twist-I couldn't care less-just made a suggestion matey. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.