A question to the American-about your cash assistance

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

One thing I am seeing now is an increasing number of people who are receiving public assistance but do have jobs, or are in training for a job, who eventually "graduate" from the system when they've been employed for long enough to be making a decent wage with benefits provided by their new employer. That's very encouraging IMO.

Well I hope so, because I see employers still acting like it's 2008, yet the economy is getting better

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Well I hope so, because I see employers still acting like it's 2008, yet the economy is getting better

Some of that might be contributed to the new healthcare system that might affect their bottom line.

[tater]

Job training programs fail to work. There was either a freakanomics podcast, or Planet Money (both on NPR) about it, and it was unambiguously a waste of money based on studies by different economists.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Some of that might be contributed to the new healthcare system that might affect their bottom line.

Recent studies show that 12-14 million people will lose their med insurance from employers due to Obamacare, much cheaper to pay the fine than incur new cost.

[GT182]

Well, being retired I can say we get no assistance. We're so broke we can't pay attention.

There are those on welfare that live far better than the rest of us. There was even a panhandler around here that disappeared when cold weather set in, and then he'd be back as soon as it got warmer. He died and they found out that he'd leave here and head to Florida for the winter.... and live in comfort in his $500,000 home on the beach and drive around in his new Mercedes.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by GT182

There are those on welfare that live far better than the rest of us. There was even a panhandler around here that disappeared when cold weather set in, and then he'd be back as soon as it got warmer. He died and they found out that he'd leave here and head to Florida for the winter.... and live in comfort in his $500,000 home on the beach and drive around in his new Mercedes.

Guy's not exactly a model citizen, but it doesn't sound like he's on welfare either.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Recent studies show that 12-14 million people will lose their med insurance from employers due to Obamacare, much cheaper to pay the fine than incur new cost.

At this point many business owners are still in the dark on this plan. I work in a office of six people. Our group plan went up 19% as a results of the healthcare bill. Business owners are not willing to hire on not knowing how exactly this new plan will affect his company. The promised transparency is/was never there in this administration.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

At this point many business owners are still in the dark on this plan. I work in a office of six people. Our group plan went up 19% as a results of the healthcare bill. Business owners are not willing to hire on not knowing how exactly this new plan will affect his company. The promised transparency is/was never there in this administration.

Supply and demand based on a competitive market usually balances things out. Course we know how this will work, cost will be passed on, jobs/wages will be cut. Many of us are in such markets that don't allow the passing of cost to customers, so I suspect employers will pass the added cost on to the employee, etc. For us, we'll be cutting bonuses and wage increases. Like you said, until it works out, employers will be wary, may take several years until supply and demand takes effect.

[NeonSamurai]

As someone who has actually studied the problem in the States, I can tell you this. A lot of families out their do their damnedest to stay within the medicaid bracket, and for good reason. You are totally boned if you step foot outside of it, as you will be even poorer and without any kind of medical coverage. The whole social insurance thing of the states to me really seems designed to trap people at a certain socioeconomic level I must say, as the gulf between it and being gainfully employed at a sustainable and covered level is gigantic, and extremely difficult to cross.

As someone who is currently working in the medical field (an adolescent mental health inpatient unit), I've also learned to utterly despise insurance companies.

It makes me miss Canada. Sure we may have to pay more taxes, but I don't have to worry about my (or future kids) medical stays bankrupting my family (Which would have happened given my medical history as a child, and that would have been with some very top notch insurance that my father would have had as a senior executive).