Stephen King on US gun contols.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Y'know for a guy who likes to slam others for trolling you sure don't hesitate to play the part yourself.

You asked for non violent uses for FIREARMS, not AR 15's and what my standing is with the IOC has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

It has everything to do with it. Your whole argument about this thing is based on your right to defend yourself. You even chastised me for not owning a firearm; calling me a 'victim' and 'helpless'. So, when somebody says that the application of the firearm is to inflict bodily harm you dance around the issue with this whole a weapon is only a weapon if you use it as a weapon nonsense. And when confronted with this, you quote selectively and deliberately obscure the point. If anyone is trolling here, it is you, August, because you know exactly what I mean and continue to avoid it.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You even chastised me for not owning a firearm; calling me a 'victim' and 'helpless'.

Link?

So, when somebody says that the application of the firearm is to inflict bodily harm you dance around the issue with this whole a weapon is only a weapon if you use it as a weapon nonsense. And when confronted with this, you quote selectively and deliberately obscure the point. If anyone is trolling here, it is you, August, because you know exactly what I mean and continue to avoid it.

Sounds to me like you are confusing me for someone else which is understandable seeing as how you're talking to so many people at once.

The bottom line here is you asked a simple question and I gave you three simple answers. Apparently you didn't like them so you cherry pick one of the three items (is that called quoting selectively?) I listed and then continually attempt to narrow and redefine it. Won't wash.

If you got something to say then go ahead and say it and stop expecting others to do your work for you.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

Link?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...2&postcount=75

The nuts target me. I am weak because I do not own or carry a firearm. You did not use the two words that I quoted, and for that you have my sincere apology, but your intent was the same. I cannot remember the full details of all of your insults. You issue so very many of them. However, this one does dovetail into the discussion nicely.

Sounds to me like you are confusing me for someone else which is understandable seeing as how you're talking to so many people at once.

The bottom line here is you asked a simple question and I gave you three simple answers. Apparently you didn't like them so you cherry pick one of the three items (is that called quoting selectively?) I listed and then continually attempt to narrow and redefine it. Won't wash.

If you got something to say then go ahead and say it and stop expecting others to do your work for you.

And yet, if the issue is biathlon shooting, why is there an AR 15 in your signature? I can hold your hand through this argument all you want, but I cannot open your eyes for you, nor can I make you drop the fallacious arguments. You gave a narrow answer to my posts because you saw that acknowledging the entirety of it would lead to an obvious conclusion, and you didn't like it.

Ultimately, it's my fault for responding to it in the first place. I knew what you were trying to do, but I bit anyway. I should have let it go and continued to respond to others, saving the forum from being subjected to this silliness, but evidently I've still got a lot to learn.......

Apologies to the other members. Let's get back to it.

[August]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The nuts target me. I am weak because I do not own or carry a firearm. You did not use the two words that I quoted, and for that you have my sincere apology, but your intent was the same. I cannot remember the full details of all of your insults. You issue so very many of them. However, this one does dovetail into the discussion nicely.

I never used the word weak either. You do however seem quite eager to don the mantle of victimhood here so if it floats your boat do continue.

And yet, if the issue is biathlon shooting, why is there an AR 15 in your signature?

Why is there some Samurai dude in your avatar? Do these things somehow mean I'm not permitted to talk about anything else?

I can hold your hand through this argument all you want, but I cannot open your eyes for you, nor can I make you drop the fallacious arguments. You gave a narrow answer to my posts because you saw that acknowledging the entirety of it would lead to an obvious conclusion, and you didn't like it.

There is no forum rule that one has to address every point in a post and it's hypocritical of you to even demand it seeing as how you haven't mentioned word one about gun collecting.

Besides, I thought Platapus and Ducimus have done a fine job in answering that issue. No need for me to repeat their arguments.

Ultimately, it's my fault for responding to it in the first place. I knew what you were trying to do, but I bit anyway. I should have let it go and continued to respond to others, saving the forum from being subjected to this silliness, but evidently I've still got a lot to learn.......

Apologies to the other members. Let's get back to it.

Uh huh.

[Stealhead]

The most important weapon is the one in your head without that I do not care if you have a gun a sword or a phaser you are useless if you cant use the weapon in your head.Even a cherry picker can become a weapon a cumbersome one.

Anything can be a weapon but certain things like many firearms are designed to be a weapon to say otherwise is in a falsehood.Yes firearms can be used for many other purposes but many where designed as weapons first and foremost.I have no problem saying this because it is true but many firearms are not designed as a weapon.

i feel that there a some serious differences between shooting at a target and shooting game (though skeet shooting is much like hunting fowl) and actual "combat" shooting.Sure target shooting can teach the fundamentals but its not enough alone to prepare a person for a combat situation or a defensive situation.