[TEC] *.exe Reverse-Engineering - Page 5

raymond6751 · 01-28-13, 03:12 PM

quote " the SH-Series is dead, so theres nothing to come, if we are not creating it."

First of all, we all accepted but few read over the user end license agreements for the software we use - including games. RE was specifically not permitted.

Copyright ownership does not end if a company does not produce further updates or similar titles.

Google was undergoing a class action law suit representing authors (I am one of them) for displaying book contents without permission. They settled out of court and have to pay millions.

Each of us has our own opinion about the right of it, but accept that it is basically illegal to RE software for any reason. Just about every program end-user license I have encountered indicates that ownership of the program remains with the maker and the license is to use it.

That should kick up some dust in the forum !

Illyustrator · 01-28-13, 04:01 PM

Hi, raymond.
And, what do you suggest?

raymond6751 · 01-29-13, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illyustrator

Hi, raymond.
And, what do you suggest?

Simple. Leave the .exe file alone.

Trevally. · 01-29-13, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymond6751

Simple. Leave the .exe file alone.

There are no mods here that have an edited SH5.exe file - or am I missing something

I want to edit my sh5.exe - I can do this

If you want to leave yours alone - fair doos

gap · 01-29-13, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevally.

There are no mods here that have an edited SH5.exe file - or am I missing something

I want to edit my sh5.exe - I can do this

If you want to leave yours alone - fair doos

01-29-13, 05:25 PM

To be clear. You can edit your own exe, and even write a patcher that will patch one if you have it (EULA won't stand up in court as you own that exe). What you cannot do is copy that EXE and distribute it.

So if you could somehow RE the exe, you would have to create a patcher to patch all the stuff you are changing, which wouldn't happen, as the exe would change dramatically on the very first build of source code.

But you can RE to find certain sections of the exe and replace them with a patcher, this is 100% legal.

Also legal is taking the file structure that we have and making out own exe from scratch. That is completely legal as well.

01-28-13, 03:12 PM	#61
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Morality vs WTF quote " the SH-Series is dead, so theres nothing to come, if we are not creating it." First of all, we all accepted but few read over the user end license agreements for the software we use - including games. RE was specifically not permitted. Copyright ownership does not end if a company does not produce further updates or similar titles. Google was undergoing a class action law suit representing authors (I am one of them) for displaying book contents without permission. They settled out of court and have to pay millions. Each of us has our own opinion about the right of it, but accept that it is basically illegal to RE software for any reason. Just about every program end-user license I have encountered indicates that ownership of the program remains with the maker and the license is to use it. That should kick up some dust in the forum ! __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

01-28-13, 04:01 PM	#62
Illyustrator 中国水兵 Join Date: May 2010 Location: BY Posts: 271 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 1	Hi, raymond. And, what do you suggest? __________________ . Loading Screens SH5...IO StrategicMap...MarineQuadratKarte

01-29-13, 05:25 PM	#66
Gaugeforever Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	To be clear. You can edit your own exe, and even write a patcher that will patch one if you have it (EULA won't stand up in court as you own that exe). What you cannot do is copy that EXE and distribute it. So if you could somehow RE the exe, you would have to create a patcher to patch all the stuff you are changing, which wouldn't happen, as the exe would change dramatically on the very first build of source code. But you can RE to find certain sections of the exe and replace them with a patcher, this is 100% legal. Also legal is taking the file structure that we have and making out own exe from scratch. That is completely legal as well.