I'm watching Run Silent, Run Deep on TCM. Question.

Sailor Steve · 01-28-13, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

There were documented instances of Destroyers going in to ram Submarines in WWII with guns blazing. One battle even resulted in the Destroyer becoming lodged in the Submarine (much like in TEB) and the crews of their respective ships fighting it out with their small arms (because the main armaments of the Destroyer cannot depress at such an angle).

USS Borie vs U-405:
http://destroyerhistory.org/flushdec...1503&pid=21504

USS Buckley vs U-66:
http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-66BuckleyReport.htm

Bilge_Rat · 01-28-13, 02:08 PM

Ramming U-Boats was a standard tactic in WW2. Every escort captain was supposed to do it, if feasible.

U-100 was rammed and sunk.

ETR3(SS) · 01-28-13, 04:28 PM

I'm not trying to say destroyers wouldn't ram a submarine, I'm just saying they would fire along the way. And it's a movie made in America, it's not going to draw good reviews and make money if the Americans lose. That's Hollywood.

Red October1984 · 01-28-13, 05:33 PM

I still like this movie either way...

Aras · 01-29-13, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I'm not trying to say destroyers wouldn't ram a submarine, I'm just saying they would fire along the way. And it's a movie made in America, it's not going to draw good reviews and make money if the Americans lose. That's Hollywood.

You are right !

Onkel Neal · 01-30-13, 10:28 AM

For its time, that was a really well-made sub movie

I think the surface attack in that scene was made at "night". In old Hollywood movies, the night scenes were very brightly lit, equivalent to a cloudy day. When you have Burt Lancaster in your film, you don't shroud his face in shadows!

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I'm not trying to say destroyers wouldn't ram a submarine, I'm just saying they would fire along the way. And it's a movie made in America, it's not going to draw good reviews and make money if the Americans lose. That's Hollywood. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	For its time, that was a really well-made sub movie I think the surface attack in that scene was made at "night". In old Hollywood movies, the night scenes were very brightly lit, equivalent to a cloudy day. When you have Burt Lancaster in your film, you don't shroud his face in shadows! __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web