[Req] Helmets On Crew At Battle Stations

[GT182]

I'm wondering if it's possible to make a mod for the crew, when manning the deck and flak guns, to wear helmets. And the watch crew also. Especially when Battle Stations are called.

Just seems a bit strange they're not wearing protection during the heat of battle. They're stacked and sitting there in the conning tower but never worn.

[gap]

Originally Posted by GT182

I'm wondering if it's possible to make a mod for the crew, when manning the deck and flak guns, to wear helmets. And the watch crew also. Especially when Battle Stations are called.

Just seems a bit strange they're not wearing protection during the heat of battle. They're stacked and sitting there in the conning tower but never worn.

a comment by silentmichal on a similar question

Originally Posted by silentmichal

It's unfortunatelly impossible (now) - we have to wait for TheDarkWraith - he has to discover how do animations work in GR2 file extensions... Because when I tried to import any head / helmet, there were no animations .

[GT182]

Thanks Gap. I had not seen that before. Hopefully someday it will happen.

[gap]

Originally Posted by GT182

Thanks Gap. I had not seen that before. Hopefully someday it will happen.

I hope so

[SteelViking]

Wait, we had this figured out 1 year ago....I thought it was implemented in a mod already?

Edit: Helmets are very easy to implement because it is a simple python script file that governs "hats" worn by crew.

[arnahud2]

Great news, SilentMichael, and thank you to have lead investigations about helmets feasibility -->

[gap]

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Wait, we had this figured out 1 year ago....I thought it was implemented in a mod already?

As far as I know, no

Originally Posted by SteelViking

Edit: Helmets are very easy to implement because it is a simple python script file that governs "hats" worn by crew.

Good

[TheDarkWraith]

I'll show you some of the difficulties I've encountered with trying to change the crew in regards to ship/crew state. Download this: http://www.mediafire.com/?wr46kk70psvfbhp It's a small part of something I was working on a long time ago.

Extract to MODS folder and enable via JSGME. Run both single missions and note the watch crew's clothing and hat (or lack of hat) with each single mission. Increase time compression to 64 and wait till the watch crew detects the biplane. Note what happens to watch crew. Do this for both single missions. See any problems with the crew?

You'll notice that it's easy to change crew's clothing and hats via scripting. The problem is there aren't enough hats, clothing, etc. to cover every possible face, torso, etc. This is why the devs never implemented it

[gap]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

You'll notice that it's easy to change crew's clothing and hats via scripting. The problem is there aren't enough hats, clothing, etc. to cover every possible face, torso, etc. This is why the devs never implemented it

Wouldn't be easy for a gfx/3d artist to create the missing clothing, possibly taking the cue from clothing items already featured, and to import it in game with your GR2 editor?

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by gap

Wouldn't be easy for a gfx/3d artist to create the missing clothing, possibly taking the cue from clothing items already featured in game, and to import it in game with your GR2 editor?

Yes and no. Yes in that gfx/3D artist can create the missing clothing/hats/etc. No in the fact that the GR2 Editor/Viewer currently cannot create new meshes in a GR2 file. I'm slowly working my way to that ability though

[gap]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

Yes and no. Yes in that gfx/3D artist can create the missing clothing/hats/etc. No in the fact that the GR2 Editor/Viewer currently cannot create new meshes in a GR2 file. I'm slowly working my way to that ability though

How the scripts you mentioned before are pointing to the GR2 clothing items?

Wouldn't it work as for unit's equipments, where item's unique names are used, no matter in which GR2 file they are located, as long as the file is in the correct folder?

In this case, duplicating the existing files and replacing meshes/textures would be enough

[TheDarkWraith]

Originally Posted by gap

How the scripts you mentioned before are pointing to the GR2 clothing items?

Wouldn't it work as for unit's equipments, where item's unique names are used, no matter in which GR2 file they are located, as long as the file is in the correct folder?

In this case, duplicating the existing files and replacing meshes/textures would be enough

The character's clothing and items are located in \data\Characters\CharacterBodyParts.GR2. If the game is only referencing this file and only in this path then your idea will not work. If the game is only referencing this file your idea will not work. If the game is only referencing this path then your idea will work. Make sense I have no clue what the game is doing in regards to this file so you'll have to test and find out

As far as scripting items visible/not visible it's done by this:

Wp:SetBodyPartVisibility("B_Hat05", 1);

Where the item in ""s comes from the CharacterBodyParts.GR2 file. The 1 says to make it visible. A 0 says to make it invisible (hide it)

[gap]

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

If the game is only referencing this path then your idea will work. Make sense I have no clue what the game is doing in regards to this file so you'll have to test and find out

As far as scripting items visible/not visible it's done by this:

Wp:SetBodyPartVisibility("B_Hat05", 1);

Where the item in ""s comes from the CharacterBodyParts.GR2 file. The 1 says to make it visible. A 0 says to make it invisible (hide it)

Yes, makes sense

Looks to me similar to the system used for equipments and crews aboard units. With this model in mind I would say that some testing by someone who is already well experienced with your GR2 Editor, could be worth the time spent in it