The problem is that we have stupid guns in the United States

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yes and lets have smart kitchen knives for the UK!
Street robbers will have no choice but to force their victims to hold up a kilo of carrots before they can stab them! Its genius I tell you

"We want to learn how to defend ourselves against carrots, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me!"

[gimpy117]

to be honest, an RFID chip in guns would be nice, so It can be known if somebody is armed. Imagine how much easier for police it would be, Driving through the hood to be able to scan and know if there are guns in the area and how many, Also, when you walk through the door with one like oh lets say in a school, an alarm goes off etc.

People say:

"oh well whats the point of Concealed carry if people know you have a gun?" well, I for one don't have to worry because I do nothing Illegal with my firearms. Imagine having a sensor, like in front of your house that could instantly Alert you to some stranger entering your property with a weapon, and for that matter what if it even had the ability to alert the police if so chosen?

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

to be honest, an RFID chip in guns would be nice, so It can be known if somebody is armed. Imagine how much easier for police it would be, Driving through the hood to be able to scan and know if there are guns in the area and how many, Also, when you walk through the door with one like oh lets say in a school, an alarm goes off etc.

People say:

"oh well whats the point of Concealed carry if people know you have a gun?" well, I for one don't have to worry because I do nothing Illegal with my firearms. Imagine having a sensor, like in front of your house that could instantly Alert you to some stranger entering your property with a weapon, and for that matter what if it even had the ability to alert the police if so chosen?

Gun control schemes only affect law abiding citizens. All a criminal would have to do is remove the RFID chip or block it's signal. Worse it would easily create a false sense of security.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by August

Gun control schemes only affect law abiding citizens. All a criminal would have to do is remove the RFID chip or block it's signal. Worse it would easily create a false sense of security.

I can see all the criminals buying illegal guns off the street lined up at police stations to have chips installed...

Will be interesting to see Biden and Obama's new gun plan, not that it will solve anything.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Will be interesting to see Biden and Obama's new gun plan, not that it will solve anything.

No it wont, because the problem in this case is caused by 90% Richard Cranium and maybe 10% gun (if that much even).
Anyway I doubt Obama and co are too bothered if their plan works or not in practice, so long as they can give the perception of having delt with it sufficiently enought to make the media and anti gun campaigners put a sock in it for a while, its probably a job well done as far they are concerned.
Good perception & intention is all that is really required of any politician half of the time. But the bottom line is that government legistlation will never stop some wacko from murdering some one.

[Red October1984]

Okay. This is purely a What If question...

What if this gun control pitches the US into a Second American Revolution?

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by August

Gun control schemes only affect law abiding citizens. All a criminal would have to do is remove the RFID chip or block it's signal. Worse it would easily create a false sense of security.

This is the core of the gun conrol problem.

It effects people like me and you, who went through the courses, and the vetting to own a weapon.


Rather than Juan and Tyrone, who buy them out of a car trunk.

New Yorks new assault weapon ban has more rules than auschwitz, Usually anything New York spawns, Jersey adopts within a year (see the no smoking in bars thing)


All gun control does is take the weapons from people who have owned guns, and used them responsibly, and turn us into potential victims.

You think a thug cares about the law, when he is selecting a handgun? The law as it is, only hurts those who follow it.

Look around the inner city of your locale, and see what I mean. The criminals are armed to the teeth, Bloods, Crips, MS13 etc...

But all that seems to be legislated is vetted and legal gun owners.

Ohhhh, it is rascist to address anything thing the inner cities do anymore? Easier to kick around the guy who kills paper targets, rather than the Thuglet who kills people. Chicago? My kinda town, 300 plus black youths laid out by illegal guns last year, yet, Newtown spawns hate on legal owners, like nothing before.

White kids die=people finally decide to get mad, and be activists.

edit: Look at worldstarhiphop.com. look at those videos, they got guns, and flash them in broad daylight, no cop even shows up, even as they shoot into the air, why am I a villain?

I own a gunsafe, my crap is locked up, and legal.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Rather than Juan and Tyrone, who buy them out of a car trunk.

Sorry that is simply racist to be honest as if there are no white criminals running around with illegal weapons.Of people I know that have had guns stolen it was most often a white boy that had stolen them.Two of my class mates got a ten year ride for stealing several grand in firearms during a robbery spree they where both white.

I see a criminal not a race.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Okay. This is purely a What If question...

What if this gun control pitches the US into a Second American Revolution?

It wont (at least I certainly hope not for all your sakes) but if it did I think I'd hedge my bets on the side that is equipped with drones, out of the millions of armed citizens, how many would be ready to take up arms against the frederal government? maybe a few thousand? ... Thats not a revolution, just a mass sucide
Things have to be rock bottom before you get to a civil uprising, America has had better days yes, but its surely no where near 'revolution' conditions. Look at what dire straights the Greeks are in right now, sure they started a few fires and threw some rocks, but most are still playing ball.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by JU_88

It wont (at least I certainly hope not for all your sakes) but if it did I think I'd hedge my bets on the side that is equipped with drones, out of the millions of armed citizens, how many would be ready to take up arms against the frederal government? maybe a few thousand? ... Thats not a revolution, just a mass sucide
Things have to be rock bottom before you get to a civil uprising, America has had better days yes, but its surely no where near 'revolution' conditions. Look at what dire straights the Greeks are in right now, sure they started a few fires and threw some rocks, but most are still playing ball.

Few are truly that hard core most are all talk.99% percent of humans will do what they are told.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Sorry that is simply racist to be honest as if there are no white criminals running around with illegal weapons.Of people I know that have had guns stolen it was most often a white boy that had stolen them.Two of my class mates got a ten year ride for stealing several grand in firearms during a robbery spree they where both white.

I see a criminal not a race.

Then take a walk around Long Branch, Patterson, Newark, Asbury Park, Jersey City, Elizabeth NJ.

Go alone.

I speak on what I see, and the problem is not the legal owners.

Call it what you want.

[August]

Originally Posted by JU_88

It wont (at least I certainly hope not for all your sakes) but if it did I think I'd hedge my bets on the side that is equipped with drones, out of the millions of armed citizens, how many would be ready to take up arms against the frederal government? maybe a few thousand? ... Thats not a revolution, just a mass sucide

You are wrong. I'd estimate that less than a quarter of the standing US Military and less than a 10th of National Guard would support an Administration that ordered it to attack Americans.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I can see all the criminals buying illegal guns off the street lined up at police stations to have chips installed...

Will be interesting to see Biden and Obama's new gun plan, not that it will solve anything.

Didn't already have a thread about the dope problem?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Okay. This is purely a What If question...

What if this gun control pitches the US into a Second American Revolution?

Good luck disarming the Western US, Texas. Where can I volunteer for this job?

[Platapus]

RFID chips would work bestest if it also identified the weapon. Then I could hack in to the system and find out who I should rob to steal the gun I want.

Of course, some might thing it is better NOT to make it easier for criminals to illegally acquire guns.