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10-31-12, 09:52 PM | #136 |
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I've seen this one before:
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11-01-12, 12:40 AM | #137 |
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They have a forum full of threads filled with good ideas for DLCs and they go with that?
Please tell me this is a joke.
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11-01-12, 12:25 PM | #138 |
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I agree my stomach rolled when I seen this. Because of how great the base game was I vowed to buy all DLC to support them... but now I'm going to have to amend that vow to "I'll buy all RELEVANT DLC"
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11-19-12, 12:58 PM | #139 | |
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After three days, I finally realized that I posted this in the wrong thread...
Crusader Kings II Patch 1.08 released. Quote:
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01-14-13, 07:56 AM | #142 |
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01-27-13, 11:01 AM | #143 |
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Anyone else have experiences from the relatively recent Republic DLC? I got it myself a few days ago and have been testing it this weekend.
Playing a republic feels suitably different, but I can't help feeling that Paradox has made a somewhat half-baked job. It's like they put up a skeleton and didn't bother adding too much meat to it. Sure, the republics are different. The concept of competing with the other patrician families over controlling the trade routes is cool. Certainly a refreshing change from the feudal noble inheritance game and the muslims' "Durr, kill all stomp stomp stomp" map painting. But it's also super repetitive. OK, I can build trade posts. Nice. I can plot or go to war to capture trade posts from other families. Cool. Then I can build more trade posts. And hope I'll one day be elected Doge. While waiting, let me build a few more trade posts. Oh, I got an event saying I got 100 gold. Cool: I'll use it to build more trade posts. Damn, another event says I lost 50 gold. Oh well, I guess I'll have to build more trade posts to make up for the loss. What, another event saying I lost 50 gold? Wait, it's exactly the same event as the last one! Oh well. Let's build more trade posts... I just can't see how I'm living in a city when there is nothing related to the city happening. All I get is events saying I either gained or lost gold. Then at some point I became Doge and guess what I got? More events saying I either gained or lost gold. And guess what I did? Yeah, build more trade posts. Meanwhile I also got into feud with another family through an event chain. Other than the cool event chain where I got to throw the other patrician out of my party pretty much nothing happened. I was like "Oh [beeb]" when my mortal enemy got elected Doge after me. I waited and waited until finally...he appointed me as steward and granted me a city for my loyal service? Uh... The republics also feel weirdly chosen. The republic of Gotland in the North has no competition whatsoever. On the other hand the Mediterranean is ridiculously overcrowded with Genoa, Venice and Pisa all stuck next to each other. And then there is the HRE to the North of them who every now and then just says: "LOL, I declare war on you for no apparent reason." OK, I get it: it's just a 10€ DLC. For such price it's totally worth the price, if only to get a momentary respite from trying to murder your eldest imbecile son to get his genius half brother inherit instead. But it's also why I'm thinking the new Paradox policy of not doing large expansions but cheap DLC packages isn't the right direction. Perhaps they are going to flesh out the republic gameplay in patches later, but at the moment the DLC feels more like a minigame rather than a decent alternative.
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01-28-13, 12:55 AM | #144 |
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Sorry for the monologue, but this is just getting silly now even by my standards.
Got bored of getting smashed around by the HRE and being an ass to the other republics, so tried Gotland instead. Got elected the big boss again. Now I don't even need to plot to acquire the trade posts from the other families, I can simply take them. Sure, I still need to have a formal plot and 3 supporters, but I alone have over 1000 % plot power and I can ask my own courtiers and sons to support my plot. I'm racking so much money I don't even know where to spend it. Every time it seems someone is going to bypass the member of my own dynasty in the elections, I simply shove ridiculous amounts of gold to the elections and boom, inheritance secured again. The other families are not even upgrading their trade posts properly, so they can't keep up with the income war. More income means more stuff and more stuff means more income. And this is only my second generation, for goodness' sake! See that? Everything in the blue is mine and keep in mind that it took a while to get the snowball rolling. If a complete dolt like me can achieve that without intentional powergaming, then what can an actually competent player do? Paradox, fix or do sumfink?
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01-28-13, 06:16 AM | #145 |
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I've only played a couple of rather short Republic-based games so far (always as Gotland with the goal of forming the Hanseatic League), so I can't comment on how these go in the long term, but I have noticed the AI is utterly incompetent at conducting trade port wars. They always send their troops after the Republic's main holding, which I suppose makes sense if you're the ruler of it but doesn't actually do anything if you're just a Patrician, while allowing you to freely rampage through their trade ports.
As for them not upgrading trade ports, I have actually seen the AI do it. I know because I find it cheaper and easier to let other Patrician families build trade ports and then grab them in a war than to build them myself. Anyway, I'm sure Paradox will balance it better and improve the AI with patches. If not, there are always mods...
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01-28-13, 01:44 PM | #146 |
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For anyone thinking of buying this game, there is a series of multiplayer videos going on where three of the developers are playing the game in Scandinavia and also explaining stuff as they go. Granted they are all playing Kings, so one of the major parts of the game is missing (rising in ranks and the challenges of being a minor power inside a huge kingdom), but all in all it's very nice and gives a good picture of what CK2 is like.
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01-30-13, 07:01 AM | #147 | |
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01-30-13, 12:39 PM | #148 |
Sea Lord
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Why, I love trade posts! Why else would I be spamming them from Finland to the Western coast of Ireland? Other than not having anything else to do with my pocket money, that is.
Oh, I love them so much that I just went to war over one. The Hanseatic League appeared and took a bunch of my posts with it through an event (obviously needing a kickstart since it appears in the middle of the game when Gotland has already established its dominance.) So I said "nuh-uh" and started a war to get my property in Gdansk back. It was a short and one sided affair which resulted in Gdansk becoming firmly blue again. But then the weird thing happened: just as I was planning on attacking them again before they had time to grow into a threat they...disappeared, for the lack of a better word. All the provinces they had trade posts in were now empty again and there was no sign of the League to be found anywhere. I had already saved money to bribe the king of Denmark to embargo them, but all I could ask him was to declare war on one of the Mediterranean republics. It's as if, after losing one war, they just packed up their gear and vanished into thin air. No idea if this is a bug or intentional, but I was honestly excited of the idea of finally having some serious competetion.
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01-31-13, 07:02 AM | #149 | |
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And here we go...Pagans!!!
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/cr...about_game-tab Quote:
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01-31-13, 08:31 AM | #150 |
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Fffff, between this and Heart of Darkness for Vicky II...my wallet was doing so well...
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