Security Suites

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Uboatman

. I experience no slowdown at all with the latest version and as some have mentioned I can turn it off and on as I please.

It's not about switching it off completely, that would be pointless when you are online or some background application goes online for update or whatever. It is about selectively choosing which applications are allowed by the firewall to go online, which one must ask you for permission, and which ones are blocked, always. If it is true what I read, that they in principle use the windows firewall, then this is not only not possible, but the firewall also does not work too reliably.

My brother use ESET NOD32 and is very happy with them, didn't see that in your list.

Never heard of that. Test, somewhere?

Ones I stay away from (after personal experience)

Norton
AVG
McAfee

So do I. I avoid everything that has written "Norton" on its box.

P.S. Just visited the ESET website. N firewall. It's antivirus only. That's probably the reason why they call it "antivirus" themselves.


Does anyone know independent testing sites for security suites like the German one I linked? The magazines I do not trust and I would prefer to know in advance what it is that I install for testing on my rig - BEFORE it messes up my installation maybe and leaves me with plenty of work and wasted hours.

[Uboatman]

Originally Posted by Skybird

P.S. Just visited the ESET website. N firewall. It's antivirus only. That's probably the reason why they call it "antivirus" themselves.

From the ESET website:

"ESET Smart Security 5,Internet security you can trust with Firewall, Antivirus, Antispam, Antispyware and Parental Control"



Says firewall right there, from the bit I can read looks like it's their own one not Windows's one, have another look

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Uboatman

From the ESET website:

"ESET Smart Security 5,Internet security you can trust with Firewall, Antivirus, Antispam, Antispyware and Parental Control"

I was at the German site. All talking about antivirus only. Anyhow, the Germn testing website does not list Eset as a good one. Not even average industrial standard, they say. Scores base on overall metaresults for Sept-Oct last year.

http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home...7/sepoct-2012/

One can sort the results at the top, in three categories, protection, repair, usability (the latter including speed factors and system drain).

Sites like this seem to be the only possibility to have at least a chnace to bring some order into the diverse disorder of software you can buy. Somewhere one just has to start.

Says firewall right there, from the bit I can read looks like it's their own one not Windows's one, have another look

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Windows firewall integrated - that was said about F-Secure.

[AVGWarhawk]

Avast.

[Uboatman]

"Windows firewall integrated - that was said about F-Secure" I know, here:

http://www.eset.co.uk/Home/Smart-Security

And this article might interest you, although I'll keep looking:

http://www.7tutorials.com/best-inter...ites-2012-2013

Going to leave it there as there just doesn't appear to be enough information out on this years products yet, good luck, if you are still unsure of any products why not send a company an email asking if their product meets your requirements?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Uboatman

"Windows firewall integrated - that was said about F-Secure" I know, here:

http://www.eset.co.uk/Home/Smart-Security

And this article might interest you, although I'll keep looking:

http://www.7tutorials.com/best-inter...ites-2012-2013

Going to leave it there as there just doesn't appear to be enough information out on this years products yet, good luck, if you are still unsure of any products why not send a company an email asking if their product meets your requirements?

When I would ask a company whether its security suite is fast, reliable, has high recognition standards and low false positve rates, does not pose stress on the system, and is compatible with other software, EVERY company will answer ALL these questions with Yes. Because they are companies interested in getting your money, and no independent testers.



It makes no sense to ask a company about the quality of its products. Of course quality is always "great". No company will ever tell you that they sell crap. Such questions only makes sense if it is hard-nailed to something like whether or not it is running under Windows and Mac, or only Windows.

G-Data uses two scan engines, but they base on - the engine by Kaspersky, I read. They just designed another interface around it and some stuff, and there you are. Well, you never stop learning.

Anyway, I will test Kaspersky. There is too much complaint about massive system intrusion and slowing down with Bit Defender.

[Uboatman]

Originally Posted by Skybird

When I would ask a company whether its security suite is fast, reliable, has high recognition standards and low false positve rates, does not pose stress on the system, and is compatible with other software, EVERY company will answer ALL these questions with Yes. Because they are companies interested in getting your money, and no independent testers.



It makes no sense to ask a company about the quality of its products. Of course quality is always "great". No company will ever tell you that they sell crap. Such questions only makes sense if it is hard-nailed to something like whether or not it is running under Windows and Mac, or only Windows.

G-Data uses two scan engines, but they base on - the engine by Kaspersky, I read. They just designed another interface around it and some stuff, and there you are. Well, you never stop learning.

Anyway, I will test Kaspersky. There is too much complaint about massive system intrusion and slowing down with Bit Defender.

You just need to be specific and have the best information you can find independently, it's also not in company's interest to outright lie to a potential customer, and you email and get an email response that lies you can return it on that basis, also online purchases are protected in the UK and I assume in the EU also, to give you an example, I bought some RAM for my XP desktop a few months ago on the basis that the company's website said they were compatible with my motherboard, turns out they weren't after extensive testing and research, full refund no problem, but I'm sure you know all this already.

Hope Kaspersky works well for you, they seem like a good company at the very least and chart well in top 10s, I'd agree with you about bit defender. Good luck with it