Dock a ship temporarily [Mission Editor] ?

01-02-13, 02:58 PM

try this, make its speed from waypoint 1 to waypoint 2 something like .25 or .1 kts then the ship is moving so slow it looks docked then at waypoint 2 you put in the speed you want for the ship and it will look like it just started moving. the drawback to this method is it will have bow and stern wakes the whole time it looks like its not moving and timing of the slow moving speed and just where to put waypoint 2 so it speeds up at the right time can take time to get right.

another thought is if you just want the ship to react then put speed at 0 but not docked and as soon as the ship reacts to being "alerted" by an attack it will get under way as AI controlled

uboot48 · 01-03-13, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

try this, make its speed from waypoint 1 to waypoint 2 something like .25 or .1 kts then the ship is moving so slow it looks docked then at waypoint 2 you put in the speed you want for the ship and it will look like it just started moving. the drawback to this method is it will have bow and stern wakes the whole time it looks like its not moving and timing of the slow moving speed and just where to put waypoint 2 so it speeds up at the right time can take time to get right.

another thought is if you just want the ship to react then put speed at 0 but not docked and as soon as the ship reacts to being "alerted" by an attack it will get under way as AI controlled

Fractional numbers did not come to my mind.
I will experiment your tip, thanks !

I was thinking simply to make the ship disappear on a last way point and then re-enter,
but that would require 2 objects with the same name. It could cause problems (?), and have no control over time ( only DATE) .

Does the ship get alerted from a patrol plane ?

01-03-13, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uboot48

Fractional numbers did not come to my mind.
I will experiment your tip, thanks !

I was thinking simply to make the ship disappear on a last way point and then re-enter,
but that would require 2 objects with the same name. It could cause problems (?), and have no control over time ( only DATE) .

Does the ship get alerted from a patrol plane ?

i think so but if its not firing at the plane its not alerted. in order to be "alerted" ships need to be directly attacked or be in very close to the ship being attacked.

i only know this from observation so i dont know the exact circumstances of the trigger for alerting so do some testing

uboot48 · 01-04-13, 09:00 PM

I spent so much time and can't make it work accordingly to my tune.
The harbor AI is quite dump, even if the unit is ELITE class.
If the way-points are too close my Bismarck tends to ignore it, or do own way.
I did make a way-point ( with 0.2 speed ) to work but I had quite few crashes during testing.
The patrol plane did not make any alert, and when is too low it gets shot instantly.
So I might give up after all, there is no point in trying to achieve something that game engine does not support.
It is sad, I actually giving up any mission creation, don't like to have my hands tight up.

gap · 01-04-13, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uboot48

I spent so much time and can't make it work accordingly to my tune.
The harbor AI is quite dump, even if the unit is ELITE class.
If the way-points are too close my Bismarck tends to ignore it, or do own way.
I did make a way-point ( with 0.2 speed ) to work but I had quite few crashes during testing.
The patrol plane did not make any alert, and when is too low it gets shot instantly.
So I might give up after all, there is no point in trying to achieve something that game engine does not support.
It is sad, I actually giving up any mission creation, don't like to have my hands tight up.

As a last resort you might ask Trevally

01-05-13, 02:09 AM

try asking here in this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=190953

or start a new thread asking about "how mission triggers work"

Trevally. · 01-05-13, 05:29 AM

Here is a mission where a DD is docked for 1 hour.
It is the replaced by another DD (same) that will goto a waypoint.
Your uboat is just off watching:-

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IsVisible=true
MissionType=0
MissionDataType=0
MultiMissionType=0
IsTutorial=false
Year=1941
Month=5
Day=18
Hour=10
Minute=0
CurrentYear=1941
CurrentMonth=5
CurrentDay=18
CurrentHour=10
CurrentMinute=0
GroupMissionStartDelay=0
IconIndex=0
Fog=0
FogRand=0
Clouds=0
CloudsRand=0
Precip=0
PrecipRand=0
WindHeading=0
WindSpeed=5.000000
WindRand=0
WeatherRndInterval=5
SeaType=0
ActivationAchievements=

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Name=_GE DD Type 34#1
Class=DDType34
Type=4
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
CfgDate=19410501
MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true
DockedShip=true
IsEscort=false
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GameExitTime=1059
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IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=0.000000
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CrewRating=3
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ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
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AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=false
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

[Unit 2]
Name=_GE DD Type 34#2
Class=DDType34
Type=4
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=0
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
CfgDate=19410501
MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true
DockedShip=false
IsEscort=false
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Lat=6304000.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=0.000000
Speed=5.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
AvailStartDate=19380101
AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=false
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

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Speed=5.000000
Radius=0.000000
Loop=-1
LoopProbability=100
Long=-2410304.000000
Lat=6306734.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false

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Name=_Type VIIC#1
Class=SSTypeVIIC
Type=200
Origin=German
LayerOperation=0
Side=2
Commander=1
CargoExt=-1
CargoInt=-1
Doctrine=0
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MainEquipment=1
SecondaryEquipment=1
DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false
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IsEscort=false
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GameExitTime=0
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Lat=6303995.000000
Height=0.000000
IsFromSingleMis=false
Heading=270.000000
Speed=0.000000
CrewRating=3
DelayMin=0
ReportPosMin=-1
ReportPosProbability=100
HighPrioContact=false
RandStartRadius=0.000000
TacticalUnit=false
AvailStartDate=19380101
AvailEndDate=19451231
TempHeading=0.000000
TempNextWP=0
CombatSubmarine2D=true
CombatRadius2D=30.000000
CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000
Num2DCombatKills=0
Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000
NextWP=0

[EditorParams]
InitLongOff=0.000000
InitLatOff=0.000000
ZoomIndex=0
Prefix=

01-05-13, 05:29 AM	#7
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Here is a mission where a DD is docked for 1 hour. It is the replaced by another DD (same) that will goto a waypoint. Your uboat is just off watching:- [Mission] IsVisible=true MissionType=0 MissionDataType=0 MultiMissionType=0 IsTutorial=false Year=1941 Month=5 Day=18 Hour=10 Minute=0 CurrentYear=1941 CurrentMonth=5 CurrentDay=18 CurrentHour=10 CurrentMinute=0 GroupMissionStartDelay=0 IconIndex=0 Fog=0 FogRand=0 Clouds=0 CloudsRand=0 Precip=0 PrecipRand=0 WindHeading=0 WindSpeed=5.000000 WindRand=0 WeatherRndInterval=5 SeaType=0 ActivationAchievements= [Unit 1] Name=_GE DD Type 34#1 Class=DDType34 Type=4 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=0 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true DockedShip=true IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19380101 GameEntryTime=0 GameExitDate=19410518 GameExitTime=1059 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2410000.000000 Lat=6304000.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=0.000000 Speed=0.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=false CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [Unit 2] Name=_GE DD Type 34#2 Class=DDType34 Type=4 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=0 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=true DockedShip=false IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19410518 GameEntryTime=1100 GameExitDate=19451231 GameExitTime=0 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2409982.000000 Lat=6304000.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=0.000000 Speed=5.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=false CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [Unit 2.Waypoint 1] Speed=5.000000 Radius=0.000000 Loop=-1 LoopProbability=100 Long=-2410304.000000 Lat=6306734.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false [Unit 3] Name=_Type VIIC#1 Class=SSTypeVIIC Type=200 Origin=German LayerOperation=0 Side=2 Commander=1 CargoExt=-1 CargoInt=-1 Doctrine=0 CfgDate=19410501 MainEquipment=1 SecondaryEquipment=1 DeleteOnLastWaypoint=false DockedShip=false IsEscort=false GameEntryDate=19410301 GameEntryTime=0 GameExitDate=19451231 GameExitTime=0 EvolveFromEntryDate=false Long=-2409519.000000 Lat=6303995.000000 Height=0.000000 IsFromSingleMis=false Heading=270.000000 Speed=0.000000 CrewRating=3 DelayMin=0 ReportPosMin=-1 ReportPosProbability=100 HighPrioContact=false RandStartRadius=0.000000 TacticalUnit=false AvailStartDate=19380101 AvailEndDate=19451231 TempHeading=0.000000 TempNextWP=0 CombatSubmarine2D=true CombatRadius2D=30.000000 CommandedSpeed2D=0.000000 Num2DCombatKills=0 Intercept2DCooldown=6.000000 NextWP=0 [EditorParams] InitLongOff=0.000000 InitLatOff=0.000000 ZoomIndex=0 Prefix= __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

01-02-13, 02:58 PM	#1
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	try this, make its speed from waypoint 1 to waypoint 2 something like .25 or .1 kts then the ship is moving so slow it looks docked then at waypoint 2 you put in the speed you want for the ship and it will look like it just started moving. the drawback to this method is it will have bow and stern wakes the whole time it looks like its not moving and timing of the slow moving speed and just where to put waypoint 2 so it speeds up at the right time can take time to get right. another thought is if you just want the ship to react then put speed at 0 but not docked and as soon as the ship reacts to being "alerted" by an attack it will get under way as AI controlled

01-04-13, 09:00 PM	#4
uboot48 Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 12 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I spent so much time and can't make it work accordingly to my tune. The harbor AI is quite dump, even if the unit is ELITE class. If the way-points are too close my Bismarck tends to ignore it, or do own way. I did make a way-point ( with 0.2 speed ) to work but I had quite few crashes during testing. The patrol plane did not make any alert, and when is too low it gets shot instantly. So I might give up after all, there is no point in trying to achieve something that game engine does not support. It is sad, I actually giving up any mission creation, don't like to have my hands tight up.

01-05-13, 02:09 AM	#6
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	try asking here in this thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=190953 or start a new thread asking about "how mission triggers work"