And the shootings continue....

Ultimately there will not be a fool proof method in controlling guns. It would seem it is the same issue when attempting to control drinking and driving.

Yes but are there any suggestions that methods to combat drink driving should be abandoned or not even tried because some people will still drink and drive?

This entire ordeal will end up being nothing but posturing. Eventually it will fad from the forefront of media followed by the people.

I am not so sure this time, it has been building up for a while and this time hit really hard, plus it had the extra impetus given by that twat from the NRA shooting himself in the foot with his idiocy.

[Skybird]

Those were the days...

LINK

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Bull****.

You seem to forget the fact that hollywood movies and games are distributed worldwide.
Yet, it doesnt cause shootings in the rest of the world in the scale that is happening in the US.

To me that points that there is a problem with your culture. As been said number of times, with the mental health care.

It's not the movies nor games.

I leave you with what Phil Plait said: http://tiny.cc/3u9opw

And especially this quote:

It's also been a fact several of our mental cases doing these shootings play violent video games hours every day. Simply put, you would have as much luck stopping these killers by banning video games as you would guns, not much at all.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Those were the days...

LINK

Knives and the like were also advertised to target young boys. Parents simply had to say no. My parents did with guns and motorcycles. Oh well, the good old days. Never mind.

Since I found some of the most silly, yet often used pro-gun defence-sentences in this thread or elswhere in similar discussions:

According to a study published in the UK's Guardian newspaper, the U.S. has the highest gun ownership rate in the world, at roughly 88 guns per 100 people. The gun homicide rate in America is concomitantly high -- around 10,000 homicides per year. In contrast, in Japan, where guns are strictly regulated, the rate of gun ownership is less than 1 percent, with 11 gun homicides reported. In the UK, where tough gun restriction measures were implemented in the 1990s, gun ownership has fallen to roughly 6 percent, with Britain reporting roughly 45 gun fatalities per year. These figures, even when adjusted for population, are staggering. What these gun-restricting countries demonstrate is that greater regulation of guns is linked to gun violence levels that are minuscule in comparison with the U.S.


In addition to ignoring the link between gun deaths and gun access, those who proffer the "guns don't kill people, people kill people," defense are committing an error in reasoning. Arguing that the human effort involved in firing a gun renders the gun itself harmless denies the causal link between subject and object. This is like saying Paul Warfield Tibbets is bad, but the atomic bomb is innocuous. Attributing the result of harm to the perpetrator but none to the means is a dangerous form of false calculus.



Yet gun supporters who believe this falsehood are also fond of comparing guns to disparate objects -- cars, for example, to exclaim (with palm to head, as if this is exactly what is being proposed) -- cars kill people, so I guess we should just restrict cars! It is not hard to point out this failure of logic. Nobody fires a gun to get to school, to take their grandmother to a doctor's appointment, or to help a neighbor get to their job, and inadvertently ends up blowing somebody's head off. The release of a gun's trigger has no additional function other than causing harm.

Leah Griesmann: Guns do kill people

I dont agree with all she says... but I nodded very often while reading this.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Those were the days...

LINK

You mock but it's what has kept us out of a dictatorship for over 2 centuries...

Originally Posted by August

You mock but it's what has kept us out of a dictatorship for over 2 centuries...

*giggles*

Yeah. Proof?
And what about all countries that are not gun-infested and are run democratically and peacefully since decades?

You are just a victim of cold war era propaganda, that´s all.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by August

You mock but it's what has kept us out of a dictatorship for over 2 centuries...

That is a crock.

The advertising is still aimed at the teenager:

Just that the teenager is over 19 in most cases.

This ad says it all about what these guns are for. Giving those with small willies a compensator. They are no good for hunting, no good for home defence, no good for agricultural purposes and ONLY good for getting ones rocks off. Some with little self control take that a step further.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

You mock but it's what has kept us out of a dictatorship for over 2 centuries...

I only mock at not seeing where instead it has lead you.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I only mock at not seeing where instead it has lead you.

And that is what will make our two peoples forever different.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by August

You mock but it's what has kept us out of a dictatorship for over 2 centuries...

Originally Posted by August

And that is what will make our two peoples forever different.

Nice catchphrases. Who exactly has appointed you to speak for whole countries and peoples?

[August]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Nice catchphrases. Who exactly has appointed you to speak for whole countries and peoples?

Yo momma.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by August

Yo momma.