Should assault rifles be banned in the US?

You're pushing the line again. No matter how strongly you feel about something, a personal insult is not the way to express it.

It depends on perspective, many people think that Heston wan't really making a prick of himself with his rant, many people even bought the bumber stickers and t-shirts with his nonsense lines on them, from their perpective it wouldn't be an insult if their statement was compared to his nonsense as they think his nonsense was really correct.

I took a long path to say this, it was all about perspective, August was simply stating that they can never understand our perspective.

Soopa, it has already been pointed out that that simply isn't true.

I live in the heart of Mormonville, and you don't get much more related than that.

Not even in West Virginia?

Now I have a question. Would you feel uncomfortable with someone carrying a consealed handgun while you are working with them? This pereson is not a Federal officer and not a cop, but he does have a 'consealed handgun permit'. He's just a young guy that thinks he has to have it on him where ever he goes.

Thats the problem, too many unknowns, every individual is individual could be a paranoid nut could be a complete fruitcake might just be a worrier maybe a wannabe hero or just a regular guy.
Plus you have to weigh in his tolerance threshold which is also different for everyone, he might be a nice regular guy at work who suddenly goes postal just because someone looked at him funny.

[andritsos]

OT.

[soopaman2]

I am a subsim celebrity as the originator of the outlander term, that has become so politically charged here.

I expect you to follow me on my non existent facebook, and twitter accounts that I do not have, maybe I can become bigger than PSY and that Gangnam style crap?

I am a celebrity style now!
Oppa, controversy style *dances like a horses ass*

Since I said outlander first, yet August got the flack for the term.

Anymore hair trigger responses?

Attack me for it.

[Armistead]

The best gun for home defense of offense...is a shotgun. I live out in the hicks, the few times I've thought something was amiss, I pull out the 12 gauge auto. Can I aim with a pistol, pretty damn good, but I also know I would be somewhat nervous if an intrders in the house, so I don't want to miss.

It still amazes me we talk about gun laws during these mass shootings when no amount of gun law will have effect. Gun laws may help with rage shooters "3 day wait", preventing accidents, etc..., they're not gonna stop the nuts.

I would have no problem restricting clips 8-10 rounds, even though I doubt it would solve much. I assume Adam had the standard 30 round clip, but it's clear he exchanged them several times.

[soopaman2]

If you know the right folks, here in Jersey you can get a weapon smuggled straight from a southern state, alot of money in running guns into states with draconian laws.

You will never stop the thugs from getting guns, and all gun laws do is stop the legals from getting them.

I know America seems weird to most, but we love our Bill Of Rights. We see it as a sacred document, that has shaped the world, no one can deny.

We thought of civil rights when the rest of the world was stuck on divinely appointed monarchies.

We elected on merits, and not birthrights, just look at Obama. As hated as he is...A negro, a liberal, (who never tried to take anyones guns away, so calm down.

The bill of rights is our first 10 amendments, 10 basic rights that should never be appealed.

From freedom of speech, press, and religion, to gun ownership, to right to a speedy trial when accused. Or no brutal sentence when condemned.

Nation of laws, we are not completely broken yet as a country, and we have our rights, it is "we the people" not "we who control the people"

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Sonarman

Why not ban all lethal guns and allow the use of tranquilizer weapons instead?That way you could still subdue a perpetrator and not open yourself up to a manslaughter/murder rap and hopefully stop these nutters getting hold of life ending equipment.

What is a tranquilizer weapon? If you are talking about darts with a tranquilizing compound then that has to be filled on a per target basis because what would take down a 180 pound man would kill a 120 pound female or mildly annoy a 300 pound male.

If you are thinking of a taser or stun gun then those can kill people with medical conditions (yea looking at person try to guess who has a heart defect) or can kill the young or old. With people on drugs the taser might do nothing or it might kill them. There are some people (a very small number) who can just . Things like heavy clothing or body armor also reduce effectiveness.

If we are talking about blinding laser weapons there have been countermeasures to them for decades.

Until we get Phasers a projectile at a high velocity is still the most effective weapon out there. (and if we do get Phasers the lethal ability of them are quite impressive).

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

What is a tranquilizer weapon? If you are talking about darts with a tranquilizing compound then that has to be filled on a per target basis because what would take down a 180 pound man would kill a 120 pound female or mildly annoy a 300 pound male.

If you are thinking of a taser or stun gun then those can kill people with medical conditions (yea looking at person try to guess who has a heart defect) or can kill the young or old. With people on drugs the taser might do nothing or it might kill them. There are some people (a very small number) who can just . Things like heavy clothing or body armor also reduce effectiveness.

If we are talking about blinding laser weapons there have been countermeasures to them for decades.

Until we get Phasers a projectile at a high velocity is still the most effective weapon out there. (and if we do get Phasers the lethal ability of them are quite impressive).

Let's use high frequency to make'em crumb to the floor!

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

We thought of civil rights when the rest of the world was stuck on divinely appointed monarchies.

Such as women's suffrage?

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

There are some people (a very small number) who can just .

Several years ago, there were a few of us that would hit each other with stun weapons to see how long we could hold up.
There were a few cases when we burned holes in each other but never went down.
Once we got up past the 60 second time we got bored with it all.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Such as women's suffrage?

Yeah 1919.

Didn't europe kill a crap load of jews just 20 years later, and bend over to a dictator yes, so refined. A few tanks and surrender! Germany voted for Hitler remember? Other countries hailed his arrival.

Kinda needed us then, but not now right?

Yes Europe is so refined. Always does what is right, America is so evil, pardon us .

We all have our demons. Why should our demons be worse than yours, since they happened for culturally different reason?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by August

Oh yeah you want to tell a woman who has a violent ex boyfriend stalking her to use a long bow like a real man if she wants to defend herself? You want to tell an elderly person or handicapped person what weapons you feel they don't need to protect themselves?

I believe that Tak's post, addressed to Sonarman, was meant to be a joke, or at least somewhat humorous.

Originally Posted by August

Wrong. We as a nation worked that particular issue out amongst ourselves back in 1865. Steves home, my home, your home, OUR home is everywhere from Maine to Hawaii and Alaska to Texas.

I know his post addressed to me was a flat-out joke. I'm sorry you missed it. Of course the repartee between us should have suggested something.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by privateer

Several years ago, there were a few of us that would hit each other with stun weapons to see how long we could hold up.
There were a few cases when we burned holes in each other but never went down.
Once we got up past the 60 second time we got bored with it all.

....I prefer Subsims....

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It depends on perspective, many people think that Heston wan't really making a prick of himself with his rant, many people even bought the bumber stickers and t-shirts with his nonsense lines on them, from their perpective it wouldn't be an insult if their statement was compared to his nonsense as they think his nonsense was really correct.

It doesn't matter if Heston was right or wrong, or what the perspective is. We don't insult other members. Well, some do, but we try to keep it in line.

Soopa, it has already been pointed out that that simply isn't true.

Except in the case of Sonarman's post I'd say it was very true.

Thats the problem, too many unknowns, every individual is individual could be a paranoid nut could be a complete fruitcake might just be a worrier maybe a wannabe hero or just a regular guy.
Plus you have to weigh in his tolerance threshold which is also different for everyone, he might be a nice regular guy at work who suddenly goes postal just because someone looked at him funny.

The unknowns can indeed be a problem, but where I live we consider the risk to be worth the possible downsides. Maybe you don't know as much about us as you think you do.

[Hottentot]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Yeah 1919.

And Finland in 1906. New Zealand in 1893. But hey, don't let that get in your way.

Didn't europe kill a crap load of jews just 20 years later, and bend over to a dictator yes, so refined. A few tanks and surrender! Germany voted for Hitler remember? Other countries hailed his arrival.

And that relates how to, say, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Poland, let alone the rest of the world?

Yes Europe is so refined. Always does what is right, America is so evil, pardon us .

I again suggest getting help. You seem to be hearing voices saying things I never said. You are hiding behind a whole country and people, when it was your post, both arrogant and ignorant, that I was addressing.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I expect you to follow me on my non existent facebook, and twitter accounts that I do not have, maybe I can become bigger than PSY and that Gangnam style crap?

Wait. I want to follow your account that you do not have. Does someone else have your accounts, or can I follow a nonexistent account?

I want to 'Like' you, but I don't know how!