Should i get SH3?

IonicRipper · 12-16-12, 07:59 PM

It's funny... I got into the whole Silent Hunter scene with SH5 and when i played it for the first time i was so amazed. Then i gave SH4 a try and thought it was even better (even if the graphics looked kind of old) so now i'm considering trying SH3.

Question is: Should I? Is SH3 considered better then SH4 in the gameplay aspect? Its not really a question of money (it's dirt cheap, these days) its more about getting to learn a new game and looking into mods and whatnot.

fitzcarraldo · 12-16-12, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IonicRipper

It's funny... I got into the whole Silent Hunter scene with SH5 and when i played it for the first time i was so amazed. Then i gave SH4 a try and thought it was even better (even if the graphics looked kind of old) so now i'm considering trying SH3.

Question is: Should I? Is SH3 considered better then SH4 in the gameplay aspect? Its not really a question of money (it's dirt cheap, these days) its more about getting to learn a new game and looking into mods and whatnot.

Try it...For me, better than SH5, in the actual state of the art (mods included).

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

Sailor Steve · 12-16-12, 09:01 PM

SH3 has had the advantage of years of dedicated modding, with several major supermods and hundreds of smaller mods to choose from.

This thread should give you some idea of what's available for SH3:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170090

IonicRipper · 12-16-12, 09:51 PM

That is impressive, Steve. But if i do decide to play it, it would be without mods at first so i can learn the game (also makes you appreciate mods even more afterwards.)

What advantages (if any) does SH3 bring over SH4?
Or rather... What would you say SH3 does better then SH4?

Red October1984 · 12-16-12, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IonicRipper

That is impressive, Steve. But if i do decide to play it, it would be without mods at first so i can learn the game (also makes you appreciate mods even more afterwards.)

What advantages (if any) does SH3 bring over SH4?
Or rather... What would you say SH3 does better then SH4?

Mods? GWX3 and SH3 Commander

Advantages? GWX

SH3 does better? Modding community is much better IMO.

Happy Hunting!

Sailor Steve · 12-16-12, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IonicRipper

What advantages (if any) does SH3 bring over SH4?
Or rather... What would you say SH3 does better then SH4?

None, really. SH4 is more stable, has better graphics and the 'General Quarters' routine, which I think is wonderful. It also has the automated crew rotation system, which is more realistic.

With SH3 you have to rotate the crew yourself when they get tired, or use SH3 Commander's controller to turn fatigue off altogether. SH4 also puts the clipboard in front of you when you get a message. SH3 takes you to a radio room screen.

What SH3 does have is a certain feel to it. I can't explain it, but a lot of players have commented on it. It just feels 'right'.

As Red October said, the big difference is in the mods. When I sink a merchant it gets a name and cargo listing, plus the number of crew aboard and how many died. For the U-boat side, SH3 has realistic port mods, with working locks in the harbors and canals. GWX offers a world of interesting oddities (American convoys escorted by blimps) and good AI routines. The MFM offers more than 70 different new merchant types, and there are other ship mods adding liners, and new ones adding many more destroyers. The list goes on forever. The GWX team was working on an SH4 version, but it died when SH5 was announced. If it had been finished I suspect SH3 would be history for me.

Basically SH4 is an advancement over SH3, and if it had the same attention from the modders I would play nothing else. But it doesn't, and it's those mods that keep SH3 at the top of my list. If you don't care about the mods and what they bring to the table, stick with SH4. Operation Monsun gives an excellent u-boat campaign, it just lacks all those little details.

HundertzehnGustav · 12-16-12, 11:53 PM

No.

first of all, you were amazed by SHV the first time you played it.

That gives a clue as to where you come from: not from the subsimming world, rather than the eyecandy world (IMNSHO the only theing SHV has to offer)

Then you were trying SHIV, and kind of let down by the dated graphics.
(confirming your roots?)

SHIII will...
SHIII will disgust you.
its old, and ugly too. no transparent water, no eyecandy whatsoever in comparisaition to SHV.

one needs to get into it , learn a bit about its ins and outs, add a mod package to make it really into the BIG thing it is.

So you will not be amazed the first time you play it.
You will be disgusted the first time you play it.

Someone amazed with SHV graphics will have a hell of a hard time getting SHIII to a satisfactory level. It takes time and a lot of reading.

And people amazed by graphics are not the most patient people that are willing to dig deep.

Now go and prove me wrong...

XD

IonicRipper · 12-17-12, 12:39 AM

Wow... You couldn't possibly had got me more wrong!

I was amazed by SH5 because i wasn't even aware there were WWII sub simulators on the market. I played it for about a month and found out about SH4 which i loved even more! I thought the gameplay was so much better so i ditched SH5 (even if it does have better graphics.)

Sure i like nice graphics as much as anyone else but between good graphics and good gameplay, gameplay is much more important to me. Its the reason i was never able to get back into SH5.

Before i even asked on here i was watching some Let's Play videos on youtube and it looked very interesting to me. It certainly did not "disgust" me.

Thanks for the reply, Steve. Exactly the type of answer i was looking for. But unfortunately it doesn't seem to be what i am looking for. I might give OM a try instead.

HundertzehnGustav · 12-17-12, 02:16 AM

Good!

Welcome to the place then!

Glad you resist a bit of poking.

Succat · 12-17-12, 05:40 AM

To answer to the Thread-title:

Of course you should, what a question!

I tried SH4 but somehow it wont run without lags...checked and worked on grahic settings...used 4 gig patch...gave e´m all cpu´s...the same. At v1.00 it runs good.

Im scared of SH5...but im gonna try it the next weeks.

So SHIII is the true with the best mods and gameplay you can trust in.

Sailor Steve · 12-17-12, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

Now go and prove me wrong...

From the right point of view you are absolutely correct! On the other hand if we're strictly talking about gameplay Aces Of The Deep still has a lot to recommend it.

Sailor Steve · 12-17-12, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by IonicRipper

But unfortunately it doesn't seem to be what i am looking for. I might give OM a try instead.

That's understandable. At least you're not part of the "Mine is best!" crowd. I also play OM, and I love it. As I said, if SH4 had a GWX and a Commander I'd probably never touch SH3 again. But it doesn't, so I waffle back and forth a lot. I have my complaints about SH5, but once I have a computer that will run it properly I'll probably waffle that way too.

flag4 · 12-17-12, 01:29 PM

should you get SH3 ? : absolutly !

with GWEGGS on top!

Jimbuna · 12-17-12, 01:34 PM

For the price of SH3 today I'd certainly give it a spin...but I would wouldn't I

IonicRipper · 12-17-12, 02:48 PM

The Ubisoft store has it for $6.49. I think i'll give it a try.

12-16-12, 07:59 PM	#1
IonicRipper Engineer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 206 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Should i get SH3? It's funny... I got into the whole Silent Hunter scene with SH5 and when i played it for the first time i was so amazed. Then i gave SH4 a try and thought it was even better (even if the graphics looked kind of old) so now i'm considering trying SH3. Question is: Should I? Is SH3 considered better then SH4 in the gameplay aspect? Its not really a question of money (it's dirt cheap, these days) its more about getting to learn a new game and looking into mods and whatnot. __________________

12-16-12, 09:01 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	SH3 has had the advantage of years of dedicated modding, with several major supermods and hundreds of smaller mods to choose from. This thread should give you some idea of what's available for SH3: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170090 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-16-12, 09:51 PM	#4
IonicRipper Engineer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 206 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	That is impressive, Steve. But if i do decide to play it, it would be without mods at first so i can learn the game (also makes you appreciate mods even more afterwards.) What advantages (if any) does SH3 bring over SH4? Or rather... What would you say SH3 does better then SH4? __________________ Last edited by IonicRipper; 12-16-12 at 10:06 PM.

12-16-12, 11:53 PM	#7
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	No. first of all, you were amazed by SHV the first time you played it. That gives a clue as to where you come from: not from the subsimming world, rather than the eyecandy world (IMNSHO the only theing SHV has to offer) Then you were trying SHIV, and kind of let down by the dated graphics. (confirming your roots?) SHIII will... SHIII will disgust you. its old, and ugly too. no transparent water, no eyecandy whatsoever in comparisaition to SHV. one needs to get into it , learn a bit about its ins and outs, add a mod package to make it really into the BIG thing it is. So you will not be amazed the first time you play it. You will be disgusted the first time you play it. Someone amazed with SHV graphics will have a hell of a hard time getting SHIII to a satisfactory level. It takes time and a lot of reading. And people amazed by graphics are not the most patient people that are willing to dig deep. Now go and prove me wrong... XD __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

12-17-12, 12:39 AM	#8
IonicRipper Engineer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 206 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Wow... You couldn't possibly had got me more wrong! I was amazed by SH5 because i wasn't even aware there were WWII sub simulators on the market. I played it for about a month and found out about SH4 which i loved even more! I thought the gameplay was so much better so i ditched SH5 (even if it does have better graphics.) Sure i like nice graphics as much as anyone else but between good graphics and good gameplay, gameplay is much more important to me. Its the reason i was never able to get back into SH5. Before i even asked on here i was watching some Let's Play videos on youtube and it looked very interesting to me. It certainly did not "disgust" me. Thanks for the reply, Steve. Exactly the type of answer i was looking for. But unfortunately it doesn't seem to be what i am looking for. I might give OM a try instead. __________________ Last edited by IonicRipper; 12-17-12 at 01:09 AM.

12-17-12, 02:16 AM	#9
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Good! Welcome to the place then! Glad you resist a bit of poking. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

12-17-12, 05:40 AM	#10
Succat Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Zentrale of VIIB U-51... Posts: 118 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	To answer to the Thread-title: Of course you should, what a question! I tried SH4 but somehow it wont run without lags...checked and worked on grahic settings...used 4 gig patch...gave e´m all cpu´s...the same. At v1.00 it runs good. Im scared of SH5...but im gonna try it the next weeks. So SHIII is the true with the best mods and gameplay you can trust in. __________________

12-17-12, 01:29 PM	#13
flag4 Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Location: as far away as possible Posts: 1,625 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0	should you get SH3 ? : *absolutly* ! with GWEGGS on top! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] ' We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.' Kurt Vonnegut

12-17-12, 01:34 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,818 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	For the price of SH3 today I'd certainly give it a spin...but I would wouldn't I __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-17-12, 02:48 PM	#15
IonicRipper Engineer Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 206 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	The Ubisoft store has it for $6.49. I think i'll give it a try. __________________