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Old 12-10-12, 11:48 AM   #61
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They'll rot long before I ever eat them all.

Not if you freeze them...

Again, another problem solved.
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Old 12-10-12, 11:50 AM   #62
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Old 12-10-12, 11:51 AM   #63
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Funnily enough, I didn't post this as a throw-away line (not that you could've known) and I certainly didn't google it. In fact, although it's no doubt been thought before, I've never heard anyone else make the comparison. I posted it because It's something I've been dweling on a lot lately.
I apologize. I saw the first line and yawned . My bad.

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When I was a kid someone was showing me how to ride a motorbike and he warned me not to stare at an object you are trying to avoid, as you will automatically steer towards it, better to to focus on the path around it.
I've noticed that. I've never talked about it because I assumed it was just me.

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Well, ~ ten or so years ago I found myself discontent with where my life was heading, I kept meeting older people in the same situation as I was in then, and they seemed destined to die with sad lonely lives. So I found some resolve and decided to knuckle down and 'get somewhere in life', I guess, by keeping mindful of where I didn't want to end up.
Thirty years ago I asked a 70-year-old of my aquaintance "When am I going to stop feeling like a kid in a world full of grown-ups?"

He replied "I don't know. Ask me again in ten years."

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Well ten years later I'm crashing and burning in a big way and I can't help but think back to that fellers advice and think, maybe I shoulda taken that on board a little more! I mean hindsight's great 'n' all, but maybe if I focused more on what I had around me, I would've ended up at the right place anyway?
"Maybe if I..."

That's the worst thing we can do, and the more past I have the more I seem to dwell on it.

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Sorry if this is a bit lame or too serious but I just wanted to explain my quote! And who knows, maybe someone might get something out of it.
Not lame at all, and definitely not too serious, at least not for me. While I'm sorry I missed your meaning the first time around, I'm also glad because it lead to you posting this.

Thanks!
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Old 12-10-12, 11:54 AM   #64
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Probably not what you're after, Steve, but one of my favourites - Etiquette is used to exclude people, manners are used to include people.
A good point, and one I should pay more attention to. I find myself leaning more towards the letter than the spirit.

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And maybe something more like what you're looking for. After her bath the other night, my daughter (aged 4) mentioned being (or becoming) dead, I obviously told her that I hoped she wouldn't die - she took a moment and said, 'but Daddy, I will die eventually'. I asked her why, and she replied, 'because we need to make room for other people to live in our house'. And she's four!
Yes, absolutely. It's amazing what kids can think sometimes.
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Old 12-10-12, 12:01 PM   #65
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Agnostic:
1. A person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.

An agnostic is not someone who believes in an unknowable God. He's someone who believes we can't know one way or the other.


Been there, done that. Haven't seen an answer yet. I'm still looking.
When my grandfather was dying, my grandmother, a devout lady, asked him to beg God for forgiveness, in which he simply replied...

"For what"...
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Old 12-10-12, 12:05 PM   #66
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When my grandfather was dying, my grandmother, a devout lady, asked him to beg God for forgiveness, in which he simply replied...

"For what"...


My dad died last July. I didn't start a thread on it because I didn't want any condolences, for various reasons. Anyway, my sister posted it on FaceBook, and got a lot of replies, one of which was from a friend of hers, saying "There's a new angel looking down on us from heaven."

I told my sister how hard it was for me to bite my tongue and say nothing, when what I wanted to post was "Dad was a lifelong atheist. He not only wouldn't thank you for saying that, he'd probably laugh in your face." My sister thanked me for holding my peace.
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Old 12-10-12, 12:15 PM   #67
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I told my sister how hard it was for me to bite my tongue and say nothing, when what I wanted to post was "Dad was a lifelong atheist. He not only wouldn't thank you for saying that, he'd probably laugh in your face." My sister thanked me for holding my peace.
I think that was a wise thing to do. People need to express sympathy in their own way. Their way is no longer of any conseqency to the departed, but lashing out is a good way to fail to honor their memory.
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Old 12-10-12, 12:25 PM   #68
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Speaking of death, my family has a very relaxed relation with death.

This year there was an overpopulation of rodents and the lawn on the cemetary was riddled with holes and when my dad asked my grandmother (his mother) if he should do something about my grandfathers grave, she replied: leave them alone, at least he has company.
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Old 12-10-12, 12:44 PM   #69
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My dad died last July. I didn't start a thread on it because I didn't want any condolences, for various reasons. Anyway, my sister posted it on FaceBook, and got a lot of replies, one of which was from a friend of hers, saying "There's a new angel looking down on us from heaven."

I told my sister how hard it was for me to bite my tongue and say nothing, when what I wanted to post was "Dad was a lifelong atheist. He not only wouldn't thank you for saying that, he'd probably laugh in your face." My sister thanked me for holding my peace.
When my Mom passed about a 18 months ago, my sis got a very fundy preacher to do her service, her husbands brother. Mom was a fairly strong christian, but a moderate Methodist. I recalled when her last brother died, she was irate that the preacher turned his funeral into a hell and damnation sermon. He wasn't "saved", nor would he confess on his death bed. Still can hear him yelling..

"We'll never know about Jay, all we can hope is he confessed." Then a long spill how the rest of them didn't have to go to hell and be tortured and gave an alter call...

My Mom was shaking she was so mad, stating he didn't say anything about how Jay was a good man, generous to all, faithful husband, etc...

Anyways, I told the preacher at my Mom's funeral I didn't want a hellfire Baptist sermon, to keep it on what a wonderul mother I had... It didn't take 5 minutes he was preaching one. I almost exploded, but held my peace. When he got done, I did take the stand and told people what a wonderful mom I had.

I spoke to him about it afterwards, he just went into a spill of how he goes where the spirit leads him. I told him if he can't honor the wishes of a grieving family to look for another line of work...
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Been there, done that. Haven't seen an answer yet. I'm still looking.
stop looking and searching.... start finding and embracing.
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Old 12-10-12, 01:42 PM   #71
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stop looking and searching.... start finding and embracing.
Finding and embracing what? God? Show me. Life? What makes you think I'm not?
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ah!
I didnt say what or where... nor did i say you were sad and bitter.
(although... "serious" might be an adjective that matches my perception of you.?)
whatever, i get off topic.
what i mean: stop running after an answer. Just stand still for a second, and the answer you are running after will hit you... in the back.
It was right behind you, trying to catch up with you all the time.
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Old 12-10-12, 01:49 PM   #73
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Oh, I'm not running after anything. When I say "looking", it's more like "waiting for someone to show me something - anything."

I'm not actively seeking anything anymore. Stopped doing that years ago. I'm a true sceptic. I don't even believe the atheists.
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Ouch!
so you don't believe in any damned thing...
not even that a "damned" state exists!

How about this one,
"Life is a Party - if you invite the right people"
said that when i was 16... and boy am I having a hard time!
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Old 12-10-12, 01:59 PM   #75
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Ouch!
so you don't believe in any damned thing...
not even that a "damned" state exists!
What ever gave you that idea? I don't put my faith in things that no one can see or show. There's a difference.

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How about this one,
"Life is a Party - if you invite the right people"
said that when i was 16... and boy am I having a hard time!
Sounds okay to me. I'm not sure it's true, but then I'm not sure about a lot of things.
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