Chinese factories grow again, but U.S. sector shrinks

Armistead · 12-03-12, 03:25 PM

I do agree the jobs aren't coming back, even if you lower taxes. Heck, jobs left by the millions with the Bush cuts. We can't compete with low wages, little regulation, cost of building, little benefits, etc. In a global economy American workers will continue to lose jobs. The last big corporate tax holiday that was supposed to create jobs...didn't, they used the money to send even more jobs overseas. Sadly, our small town once a large mill town is dead, last week another business shut down here, 290 jobs lost, moving overseas.

Regarding skilled trades, some do pay well, but constuction all but died when the economy tanked. The market is so crowded with builders that work goes so cheap, hardly worth bidding these days.

Stealhead · 12-03-12, 04:13 PM

What you say about construction is true though it is coming back in some regions.But that is only one group of trades.

I have friend that is a pipe layer up in Maryland he has always had good work some times things slow down a bit but in that trade you have as much maintenance and repair of older lines as you do installation of new ones there are terracotta lines all over the US that stuff is old and breaks often my friend gets a job at Annapolis on the Naval Academy grounds at least once a month not to mention all of the city and county contracts he gets.The trick is finding a trade that is in demand and always will be and one that does not suffer as much during downturns the downside of construction is people need to be building things and that always come and goes you have strong periods but weak ones as well.

There was a big upturn in construction in the 80s and 90s now that bubble has burst it happens same thing happened after WWII until the late 60s then things slowed down.When things are good you always have an influx of people getting into that trade when the trade is one that ebbs and flows every 10~20 years you take a risk and when things slow down some places are going to go under.

We can adapt we always have in this country maybe some people give up on the US but I never will.(not saying that you have necessarily but some people seem to have)

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	What you say about construction is true though it is coming back in some regions.But that is only one group of trades. I have friend that is a pipe layer up in Maryland he has always had good work some times things slow down a bit but in that trade you have as much maintenance and repair of older lines as you do installation of new ones there are terracotta lines all over the US that stuff is old and breaks often my friend gets a job at Annapolis on the Naval Academy grounds at least once a month not to mention all of the city and county contracts he gets.The trick is finding a trade that is in demand and always will be and one that does not suffer as much during downturns the downside of construction is people need to be building things and that always come and goes you have strong periods but weak ones as well. There was a big upturn in construction in the 80s and 90s now that bubble has burst it happens same thing happened after WWII until the late 60s then things slowed down.When things are good you always have an influx of people getting into that trade when the trade is one that ebbs and flows every 10~20 years you take a risk and when things slow down some places are going to go under. We can adapt we always have in this country maybe some people give up on the US but I never will.(not saying that you have necessarily but some people seem to have) Last edited by Stealhead; 12-03-12 at 04:23 PM.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I do agree the jobs aren't coming back, even if you lower taxes. Heck, jobs left by the millions with the Bush cuts. We can't compete with low wages, little regulation, cost of building, little benefits, etc. In a global economy American workers will continue to lose jobs. The last big corporate tax holiday that was supposed to create jobs...didn't, they used the money to send even more jobs overseas. Sadly, our small town once a large mill town is dead, last week another business shut down here, 290 jobs lost, moving overseas. Regarding skilled trades, some do pay well, but constuction all but died when the economy tanked. The market is so crowded with builders that work goes so cheap, hardly worth bidding these days.