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Old 11-27-12, 08:21 PM   #1
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It's not a question of human nature. It's a question of good and competent teachers, versus lousy and incompetent ones. The latter also often tend to have a lacking sense of responsibility.

Solution: fire bad teachers. Not possible if they are holding status of "civil servants". Maybe that should be changed then, for reasons of quality control. It must be possible to sport out bad teachers. Leaving them were they makes hundreds of children and students paying the price. And that is unacceptable, since the interest of the many in this case clearly outweighs the interest of the one.
No, it would be a question of various factions within the local community jockeying to have their view of the contentious subject be the dominant and last word, just like it is with sex ed. You could fire every teacher you consider to be bad and you still have the problem. Hell, you could fire every teacher in America, replace them with individuals that you have personally chosen and the problems will still remain.

The real issue is that no one will agree with how they want it taught. Many communities can't even agree with how they want math taught, and numbers are numbers.
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No, it would be a question of various factions within the local community jockeying to have their view of the contentious subject be the dominant and last word, just like it is with sex ed. You could fire every teacher you consider to be bad and you still have the problem. Hell, you could fire every teacher in America, replace them with individuals that you have personally chosen and the problems will still remain.

The real issue is that no one will agree with how they want it taught. Many communities can't even agree with how they want math taught, and numbers are numbers.
Exactly.
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I must have had really weird teachers, since I had religion classes in school for 12 years and history classes for, what, 8 years or so, and to this day I can't even begin to guess if any of my many teachers in those years were religious or atheists.
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As long as they did a good job, it does not matter if they are religious or atheists, if this does not affect teaching.
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I must have had really weird teachers, since I had religion classes in school for 12 years and history classes for, what, 8 years or so, and to this day I can't even begin to guess if any of my many teachers in those years were religious or atheists.
That compares to my experiences (Gymnasium, West-Berlin, finished school winter 1985).
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That compares to my experiences (Gymnasium, West-Berlin, finished school winter 1985).
West Berlin, outside the communist regime,
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West Berlin, outside the communist regime,
West Berlin, the thorn right in the heart of the communist regime.
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West Berlin, the thorn right in the heart of the communist regime.
Where your roots grown with Marxism elements,
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West Berlin, the thorn right in the heart of the communist regime.
I wouldn't call the GDR the heart of the communist regime, more the buttocks.
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