Those who voted "third party"....

Bubblehead1980 · 11-07-12, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Because obviously, those of us who voted for a third party would have voted for Romney otherwise?

Should have, Romney was not my first choice but much better than obama and was only one who had a chance of beating him.

Tchocky · 11-07-12, 06:07 PM

Still amazes me that Romney was the best GOP candidate. I wonder what's next for the party.

em2nought · 11-07-12, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still amazes me that Romney was the best GOP candidate. I wonder what's next for the party.

FYI to the GOP four years from now I will NOT vote for a scientologist

Herr-Berbunch · 11-07-12, 06:22 PM

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Those who voted "third party"....

The world thanks you.

11-07-12, 06:26 PM

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Oh right, cause democracy is supposed to be A/B choice and not an expression of individual free will.

Idiot.

vienna · 11-07-12, 06:38 PM

The 3rd parties are not to "blame" for anything the GOP did to itself. A number of weeks back, Rick Perry gave a speech to a group of evangelicals where he expressed surprise that libertarians and others of their like didn't rush to the arms of the GOP and their Christain conservatives. I had to laugh when I read the report; people advocating personal liberty and self-responsibility wanting to join with a faction that seems bent on controlling and dictating every aspect of personal life and choice under the banner of "Christian values". It is rather like the Taliban wondering why secular Muslim Turks are not rushing to their banner. If the GOP had given the American voters any better reasons and/or a better candidate, they would have taken the votes away from Obama. There is always going to be about a 5% or less of the electorate who is going to be part of the 3rd party vote. This should be, and is, by those who are realists about elections, factored into the expectations of any party in the presidential elections. They are not out to get a majority of 100% of the voter pool - they have to get a majority of the +/-95% remaining pool. The only real break in this pattern is when there is a populist surge resulant in a3rd party candidacy appealing to some of the more aminstream voters such as Wallace and Perot. Otherwise, both parties should face reality there is no chance they are going to get that +/- 5% chunk...

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Bilge_Rat · 11-08-12, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still amazes me that Romney was the best GOP candidate. I wonder what's next for the party.

exacly...I am sure they would have had a much better chance with...

...Cain...

or...

..Perry..

or...

.. Santorum...

The only good thing about this is that I am sure the GOP will come to the conclusion that they have to nominate someone even MORE conservative in 2016.

We all know how well that worked out in Indiana, losing a Senate seat which had been in the GOP since 1976.

geetrue · 11-08-12, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still amazes me that Romney was the best GOP candidate. I wonder what's next for the party.

I wonder about the popularity of Christi ...
perhaps with a latino running beside him he could
take it all the way to the white house in 2016

Gargamel · 11-16-16, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still amazes me that Romney was the best GOP candidate. I wonder what's next for the party.

Somebody probably already noticed this.... but this is an amazing statement.

CaptainHaplo · 11-16-16, 10:41 PM

So now we have a President Elect who ran on conservative topics:

Fix illegal immigration (starting with border control)
Remove governmental regulation
Repeal Obamacare
Lower taxes
Deal with Islamic Terror

Even with all his personal negatives - the conservative PLATFORM (note - not "republican") still won because it was articulated clearly (though in many ways, bombastically).

Like I said - conservatism wins when its not moderated.

And for the record - my vote for PUSA was a write in.....

Tchocky · 11-25-16, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

Somebody probably already noticed this.... but this is an amazing statement.

I should have kept my big mouth shut.

razark · 11-07-12, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Should have, Romney was not my first choice but much better than obama and was only one who had a chance of beating him.

Sorry, I'll make sure I check with you in four years to make sure I know who the approved candidate is. I mean, I'm just a rather non-descript American voter. There's no possible way I could have considered my options and made an informed decision.

I did some independent research this morning, in fact. It turns out that the sun did rise. And will continue to do so until January 20th, 2017. Your guy lost. Get on with your life, and better luck November 8th, 2016.

Bubblehead1980 · 11-07-12, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Sorry, I'll make sure I check with you in four years to make sure I know who the approved candidate is. I mean, I'm just a rather non-descript American voter. There's no possible way I could have considered my options and made an informed decision.

I did some independent research this morning, in fact. It turns out that the sun did rise. And will continue to do so until January 20th, 2017. Your guy lost. Get on with your life, and better luck November 8th, 2016.

That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".Obviously, like a lot of people you don't know this guy's background, how he really feels and thinks, just buy into what he says.This man will wreck the economy even more and a lot of human suffering will come out of it, but hey he did it with the god awful fake smile of his so it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Oh yea, not to mention the dangerous fools he will likely to appoint to the supreme court, the gun control he will pursue, the ridiculous immigration reform, the "flexible" position of missile defense he will take with Russian(like he told putin), his continued hostility towards Israel.Lets not forget his subversion of the consitution etc.Our only hope is to keep the house GOP in next four years to block every stupid thing he tries to do.

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

Morts · 11-07-12, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

Why arent you a funny one

Why cant cant you just deal with the fact that the majority of your nation holds a different opinion than you ? and that they won.

JU_88 · 11-07-12, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".Obviously, like a lot of people you don't know this guy's background, how he really feels and thinks, just buy into what he says.This man will wreck the economy even more and a lot of human suffering will come out of it, but hey he did it with the god awful fake smile of his so it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Oh yea, not to mention the dangerous fools he will likely to appoint to the supreme court, the gun control he will pursue, the ridiculous immigration reform, the "flexible" position of missile defense he will take with Russian(like he told putin), his continued hostility towards Israel.Lets not forget his subversion of the consitution etc.Our only hope is to keep the house GOP in next four years to block every stupid thing he tries to do.

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

You sound like you've been watching too much Alex Jones or something.
The wrecked economy you speak of cannot be blamed on Obama or any president before him. It is caused by a 30 year debt binge which is a combination of mass irresponsibily by financial institutions, politicians and shock horror - ordinary citizens and consumers.
Virtually everything you said above could easily be reworded by a die hard democrat to describe Bush or Romney to the same degree of accuracy (or in accuracy).
Your eyes are open, but only to one set of views which can only seem to determine one possible outcome, what will you say if we hit 2016 and nothing much has changed?

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,723 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The 3rd parties are not to "blame" for anything the GOP did to itself. A number of weeks back, Rick Perry gave a speech to a group of evangelicals where he expressed surprise that libertarians and others of their like didn't rush to the arms of the GOP and their Christain conservatives. I had to laugh when I read the report; people advocating personal liberty and self-responsibility wanting to join with a faction that seems bent on controlling and dictating every aspect of personal life and choice under the banner of "Christian values". It is rather like the Taliban wondering why secular Muslim Turks are not rushing to their banner. If the GOP had given the American voters any better reasons and/or a better candidate, they would have taken the votes away from Obama. There is always going to be about a 5% or less of the electorate who is going to be part of the 3rd party vote. This should be, and is, by those who are realists about elections, factored into the expectations of any party in the presidential elections. They are not out to get a majority of 100% of the voter pool - they have to get a majority of the +/-95% remaining pool. The only real break in this pattern is when there is a populist surge resulant in a3rd party candidacy appealing to some of the more aminstream voters such as Wallace and Perot. Otherwise, both parties should face reality there is no chance they are going to get that +/- 5% chunk... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

11-16-16, 10:41 PM	#10
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	So now we have a President Elect who ran on conservative topics: Fix illegal immigration (starting with border control) Remove governmental regulation Repeal Obamacare Lower taxes Deal with Islamic Terror Even with all his personal negatives - the conservative PLATFORM (note - not "republican") still won because it was articulated clearly (though in many ways, bombastically). Like I said - conservatism wins when its not moderated. And for the record - my vote for PUSA was a write in..... __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo