Scientific American: "Antiscience Beliefs Jeopardize U.S. Democracy"

[MH]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

Well, in the cold war we too to science like fish to water,

now...candidates have to pretend that the world is 6,000 years old just to get a vote.

It's silly to expect our technological advantage to continue at this rate

Actually life goes on while others make headlines.

USA is very colorful country with a lot of things going that are hard to swallow for europeans.
I personally see this diversity as a merit even thou it may cause all sorts of headlines.

I also wonder why this particular thing came up just now lol.


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[Sailor Steve]

And August has successfully managed to steer the discussion away from the article itself, which is actually pretty interesting, whether you agree with it or not.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Betonov

my cat once caught a hawk. the last time I saw it was somewhere above the Alps

imagining the picture

now...candidates have to pretend that the world is 6,000 years old just to get a vote.

Now let me see, when did the last ice age end .. 15000 b.C. ?
The Minoans started their business around 5000 b.C. this roughly makes 7000 years from now now.

This site is roughly 12000 years old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6bekli_Tepe

Since i studied geology and paleontology don't let me digress to dinosaurs and why they cannot have lived with humans.

But then, is it necessary for a president to know that

even I was dumded down years ago that we had no oil here,

How dumb does someone have to be to ever think that?
Even fictional backwoods hicks like the Clampetts knew about Texas tea

not to mention how many birds that are killed.

But please mention it
wind power 20,000
coal and oil power 14,000,000
damn them turbines eh

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by Betonov

my cat once caught a hawk. the last time I saw it was somewhere above the Alps

Originally Posted by Catfish

imagining the picture

This one?



You may now return on topic.

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And August has successfully managed to steer the discussion away from the article itself, which is actually pretty interesting, whether you agree with it or not.

Have patience Spanky. It's just page 1.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by August

I like reading your posts and wouldn't want to see you hurt yourself!

Good thing you werent here one hour ago when I managed to got stuck in the woods with my car. And then getting unstuck
I hope the boss wont need me tommorow, a visit at the mechanic is a must


Back on topic:

Actually life goes on while others make headlines.

USA is very colorful country with a lot of things going that are hard to swallow for europeans.
I personally see this diversity as a merit even thou it may cause all sorts of headlines.

THIS !!!!
There's enough scientific oriented Americans to cancel out the bible nuts. They just prefer to read books and do research than scream at others

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by August

Have patience Spanky. It's just page 1.

Okay, will do.

THIS !!!!
There's enough scientific oriented Americans to cancel out the bible nuts. They just prefer to read books and do research than scream at others

Two problems there, the ones that scream are also very zealous and keep pushing till they get it, the ones that read and research will just look at the screamers and think "loonies" then go back to the books.
Just look at how the cretinists keep digging away at education by getting myths labelled as science.

[August]

Originally Posted by Betonov

THIS !!!!
There's enough scientific oriented Americans to cancel out the bible nuts.

Not just cancel out but overwhelm them by several orders of magnitude. The foreign press (and ours as well) like to play up the idea as being pervasive throughout our society but in reality it is pretty rare to find someone who actually believes it.

[Skybird]

Has anyone here even cared to read that article, which is 6 pages? Steve seems to have read it - but any others of those talking in here?

In other words does anyone in here beside Steve know what he is talking about and what this thread is about?

Just curious...

Has anyone here even cared to read that article

Of course not, I didn't read the Presidential candidates anwsers either though I must say Romney does go on a bit while sayiong little and seem to contradict many of the statements he has made during the campaign, but I suppose thats because he is targeting the audience of the journal and not his party fanbase.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Two problems there, the ones that scream are also very zealous and keep pushing till they get it, the ones that read and research will just look at the screamers and think "loonies" then go back to the books.
Just look at how the cretinists keep digging away at education by getting myths labelled as science.

The smart people need some good PR people because of that. To scream louder than the cretinists

Not just cancel out but overwhelm them by several orders of magnitude. The foreign press (and ours as well) like to play up the idea as being pervasive throughout our society but in reality it is pretty rare to find someone who actually believes it.

It's the medias's fault as always. I mean it, I'm not sarcastic. But thats the price of free press. If they're not influenced they'll report on what sells

[Armistead]

American politics is changing, the fundy Christian mindset is hurting the GOP more than helping it, but those running for high office still need the bible belt.
Frankly, it should terrify anyone to have a president that doesn't believe in evolution or believes the earth is 6000 years old.

[Buddahaid]

Yes I read it and all I get from it is nothing has changed other than information of all kinds gets disseminated faster and farther thanks to science.