Open carry in Oklahoma

[August]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

A baseball bat isn't really concealable. Approaching a visibly armed individual with a bat isn't a good way to stay alive if you have bad intentions. Carrying visibly is a warning - the person carrying is able - and willing - to defend himself against his/her person or their family, etc - with lethal force.

Not many criminals are looking for someone to kill them. They want an easy target. A helpless one if possible.

Regarding having your gun taken from you - again - situational awareness and proper tools. Carrying openly without a retention holster is just plain stupid. Just like carrying concealed and printing is.

Exactly that's why I think stealth would be more successful. If they can take a persons watch and wallet without them knowing it I don't see how that glock would be any more difficult.

[MH]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly that's why I think stealth would be more successful. If they can take a persons watch and wallet without them knowing it I don't see how that glock would be any more difficult.

If your gun can be taken from you without you knowing it then you do somthing wrong....

[August]

Originally Posted by MH

If your gun can be taken from you without you knowing it then you do somthing wrong....

Same thing for wallet and watch yet it happens.

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by August

Exactly that's why I think stealth would be more successful. If they can take a persons watch and wallet without them knowing it I don't see how that glock would be any more difficult.

Which is why a retention holster should be considered standard.
A standard holster has no locking mechanism - a retention holster does. They come in multiple levels as well - and many manufacturers have different nuances. So its like the difference between sneaking a wallet out of someone's back pocket - and sneaking out the wallet - and the chain that is attached to a front belt loop.

LE use retention holsters for this exact reason. Sure - the rare case is that they get into a tussle with someone who goes for their gun. The fact is retention gives you the ability to not lose your firearm. Besides - if you let someone get that close - you damned near deserve to get your firearm taken away.

[August]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Which is why a retention holster should be considered standard.
A standard holster has no locking mechanism - a retention holster does. They come in multiple levels as well - and many manufacturers have different nuances. So its like the difference between sneaking a wallet out of someone's back pocket - and sneaking out the wallet - and the chain that is attached to a front belt loop.

LE use retention holsters for this exact reason. Sure - the rare case is that they get into a tussle with someone who goes for their gun. The fact is retention gives you the ability to not lose your firearm. Besides - if you let someone get that close - you damned near deserve to get your firearm taken away.

I've heard of chain wallets being lifted so I think you're underestimating the skill of a good pickpocket or team of pickpockets. After all we're talking about open carry for the general public which means open carry in situations like this:



You don't think a gun could be slipped off someones hip on this street? Remember once it is separated from the victim it can be concealed almost instantaneously. The victim might even feel it go but it's going to be tough to know who done it.