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Old 10-26-12, 04:24 PM   #1
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Default Assange needs to go to the hospital

And the Embassy is asking safe passage for him too! Wonder if the UK will allow it?

http://t.news.msn.com/world/ecuador-...k-safe-passage
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Old 10-26-12, 04:27 PM   #2
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In before conspiracy.
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Old 10-26-12, 04:30 PM   #3
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In before smert' shpionam.

In all seriousness though, yes, I imagine they'll let him through, otherwise the EU Board of Human rights will get pretty annoyed.
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Old 10-26-12, 04:30 PM   #4
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If humanitarian reasons were quoted on behalf of the Lockerbie bomber, and other illustrious VIPs of this callibre in the past, it should be allowed and guaranteed for this comparably harmless man, too. He is no mass murder, no war criminal, and no arms smuggler or drug baron or pedophile.
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Maybe they'll grant him safe passage to the hospital, but not from the hospital. Wouldn't that be funny,lol
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Old 10-26-12, 04:53 PM   #6
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Maybe they'll grant him safe passage to the hospital, but not from the hospital. Wouldn't that be funny,lol
The hospital will love them for it, like they can afford a bed being taken up indefinitely.
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Old 10-26-12, 09:40 PM   #7
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If humanitarian reasons were quoted on behalf of the Lockerbie bomber, and other illustrious VIPs of this callibre in the past, it should be allowed and guaranteed for this comparably harmless man, too. He is no mass murder, no war criminal, and no arms smuggler or drug baron or pedophile.
But an accused rapist is ok?
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But an accused rapist is ok?

As long as he is only an accused rapist, yes.

Now, once he is convicted of rape, that's a different story

You want to know another name for an "accused rapist"?

An "innocent man" (until proven guilty in a court of law)
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Old 10-27-12, 04:28 AM   #9
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Assange,need more than just a hospital in the situation he is in.
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If humanitarian reasons were quoted on behalf of the Lockerbie bomber, and other illustrious VIPs of this callibre in the past, it should be allowed and guaranteed for this comparably harmless man, too. He is no mass murder, no war criminal, and no arms smuggler or drug baron or pedophile.
Nobody is denying him medical treatment or access to aid. He's doing that to himself by remaining in the embassy. The UK has a legal obligation to arrest him, but the UK is hardly a country where the imprisoned go without medical treatment. Neither is Sweden.
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Nobody is denying him medical treatment or access to aid. He's doing that to himself by remaining in the embassy. The UK has a legal obligation to arrest him, but the UK is hardly a country where the imprisoned go without medical treatment. Neither is Sweden.
Agreed....the Ecuadoreans will probably want something in writing before he will leave the embassy. I hope they send medical people into the embassy as an alternative because there is no claims of there being a life threatening illness, just wight loss as far as I can ascertain and that could well be down to the trauma of being holed up in a small room for so long or dietary intake even.
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Then the Lockerbie bomber should not have been released. Same standards for all, please, no opportunistic cherry-picking. Assange is very likely subject of an intrigue, and if that is true, has all reason to worry about being arrested, because he most likely will never leave arrest again. Not necessarily because he raped someone. But because it is an intrigue.

In intrigues, laws can get abused and hijacked. If laws get abused and hijacked to push an intrigue, I see no reason why to play by their rule any longer. They then have lost their legality to me.

The Swedes already could have had their questioning of him that they wanted, and since long time. And very easily. According arrangements have been made so often before. But in Assange'S case, for some reason just questioning him obviously is not what they are satisfied with. Considering that the whole case stinks to heaven and the Swedes have a very strange law regarding "rape" (which makes them the ideal strawman to push this intrigue on behalf probably of somebody else), this all is highly suspicious. Not certain, but highly suspicious. I refuse to just ignore these suspicions, but I take their high probability into account. Even more so when there are strong, overwhelming motives for certain states and actors to get Assange into their fangs - no matter how.
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Ecuador is worried about the health of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
Yea right....

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safe passage from its London embassy to hospital if he needs medical treatment
IF...IF...Why say it as he dose not at this moment in time.

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"Assange has grown noticeably thinner, and we are very concerned about his health,"
Order more pizza's, sorted...Next.
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The UK has no choice in the matter....he has breached his bail conditions and the judicial system is there for everyone to scrutinise, he was made well aware of the consequences at the time and decided upon the course of action he took.
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If he needs treatment send him to a Bupa hospital where he will have to cough up and pay.
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