U.S. Presidential Debates & Election - Page 16

Skybird · 10-23-12, 07:08 AM

Debate reveals outdated US foreign policy

Jimbuna · 10-23-12, 07:35 AM

Just finished catching up on the debate and reading a few articles and IMHO it would appear Obama was the winner so I guess he'll be re-elected.

*I'll get my coat*

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Just finished catching up on the debate and reading a few articles and IMHO it would appear Obama was the winner so I guess he'll be re-elected.

*I'll get my coat*

Obama should be the winner when it comes to foreign policy. He is, after all, in the know and should be. Let's take for example his campaign 2008. He states Gitmo will closed within the year of his appointment. We will pull troops out of Iraq in a few months after his appointment. It all looks nice and cheery until he got the real picture AFTER he was appointed and sworn in. The passing of the baton includes what is really going on in the war zones. Not what the media is feeding everyone. Gitmo, still open. Iraq troops returning took longer than he stated. Some troops deployed elsewhere. The point is, Willard Romney is kind of in the dark. He does not sit at Camp David getting briefs. He is not in the Oval Office getting briefs. He can talk a good game on funding the war machine and this makes government contractors happy. It also makes the hundreds of thousand that are part of the war machine industry happy. Similar to the folks in the car industry. If it failed...thousands out of work. If the military material manufactures are not needed anymore....thousand out of work. The war machine is an economy in itself.

So, yes, I would suspect BO to have a upper hand in this discussion. It does not belay the fact that a majority of America is concerned with the economy. Therefore, a win for BO is not assured. His record not very stellar.

I believe we will have a tight race similar to the hanging chads of Bush/Gore.

Onkel Neal · 10-23-12, 09:54 AM

I just hope there are no super close elections in any of the states.

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 09:57 AM

There will be. I suspect there will some civil unrest in a few areas.

DHS purchased 200 million rounds of ammo recently. Why would DHS need this many rounds?

JU_88 · 10-23-12, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

There will be. I suspect there will some civil unrest in a few areas.

DHS purchased 200 million rounds of ammo recently. Why would DHS need this many rounds?

heh, Maybe in case the dollar eventually fails, things might get ugly in some places then, depending on how it is dealt with.
I still think this debt crisis has alot more in store for us, although the seas are calm for now.
I doubt their purchase has anything to do with the elections though.

Takeda Shingen · 10-23-12, 10:37 AM

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I believe we will have a tight race similar to the hanging chads of Bush/Gore.

I certainly hope that it won't be a hanging chad affair. That whole ordeal was a national embarrassment.

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 11:04 AM

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heh, Maybe in case the dollar eventually fails, things might get ugly in some places then, depending on how it is dealt with.
I still think this debt crisis has alot more in store for us, although the seas are calm for now.
I doubt their purchase has anything to do with the elections though.

The seas are not calm. The market has dropped 250 today.

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 11:05 AM

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I certainly hope that it won't be a hanging chad affair. That whole ordeal was a national embarrassment.

...of international magnitude.

JU_88 · 10-23-12, 11:09 AM

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The seas are not calm. The market has dropped 250 today.

Ah...Had to go and jinx it didnt I?

August · 10-23-12, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

There will be. I suspect there will some civil unrest in a few areas.

DHS purchased 200 million rounds of ammo recently. Why would DHS need this many rounds?

Why does any military or law enforcement group need a lot of ammo? It's because practice makes perfect. Not a good idea to restrict how much a law officer can practice with his service weapon.

Between agents and contractors there are about 360,000 people working for DHS. 200 million rounds works out to about 500 round a person. Not an unrealistic amount for an entire year. Heck I can easily blow off 500 rounds in just a weekend at the range.

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 11:39 AM

My mistake. It was 750 million round. Apparently on top of the 450 million already purchased. Hollow point

Not practice rounds. Just how much practice do they need? They are preparing for something. I do not think it is a turkey shoot.

vienna · 10-23-12, 12:12 PM

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JU_88 · 10-23-12, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Why does any military or law enforcement group need a lot of ammo? It's because practice makes perfect. Not a good idea to restrict how much a law officer can practice with his service weapon.

Between agents and contractors there are about 360,000 people working for DHS. 200 million rounds works out to about 500 round a person. Not an unrealistic amount for an entire year. Heck I can easily blow off 500 rounds in just a weekend at the range.

Fair point TBH, Its one of those bits of news I think people often read too much into, thinking its something sinister when its probably nothing much.
And Im betting that 200 million rounds of ammo is nothing compared to the amount of ammo in circulation amongst non-law enforcement gun owners in the U.S. Maybe DHS just want to even up the numbers abit.....just in case

10-23-12, 12:28 PM

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DHS purchased 200 million rounds of ammo recently. Why would DHS need this many rounds?

Has yubba hacked your account or have you just been to Alex Jones infowars for "news"?

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My mistake. It was 750 million round. Apparently on top of the 450 million already purchased. Hollow point

Not practice rounds. Just how much practice do they need? They are preparing for something. I do not think it is a turkey shoot.

Come on its 1.2 billion over the past six years and they are ordering more to be delivered over the next 4 years...its a conpiracy I tell ya , they even ordered different sorts of ammunition which is worrying because
"acquisition of .308 rounds is of concern because they are set to be used by well-trained snipers."

But hold on , what silly bugger ordered all those blanks? how on earth are the evil feds going to gun down the unruly population if they ordered all those blanks, are they going to scare them to death with the noise?
And those paper targets for the shooting range in the same orders, they were printed as paper targets of unruly citizen I tell ya

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	There will be. I suspect there will some civil unrest in a few areas. DHS purchased 200 million rounds of ammo recently. Why would DHS need this many rounds?

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My mistake. It was 750 million round. Apparently on top of the 450 million already purchased. Hollow point Not practice rounds. Just how much practice do they need? They are preparing for something. I do not think it is a turkey shoot.