Lance "Superman" Armstrong crashed and grounded for life

Skybird · 10-22-12, 03:59 PM

They have slightly more than just "hearsay". They have witness confessions of former staff and aides, and recordings of bullying, intimidation, public character assassination - partially carried out by Armstrong himself, say witnesses.

As I said, doping and lying over it I maybe could forgive, depending on circumstances, which does not mean that I would rehabilitate him. But Armstrong's criminal actings beyond that is where he really pisses me off at the latest.

However, bicycle sports is seriously bugged with doping anyway. Probably all professional sports is where gold medals are at stake and sponsoring and commercial treaties worth hundreds of thousands and millions is the reward. And doping control is always some steps behind.

Lets equalize the chances for everybody, I think that is what it is about: equal chances at the starting line, comparable conditions for all. Legalize doping. People have the right to take risks, if perspectives are worth for them to risk their health and life for it, so be it - it's not as if they would die by starvation if they do not sell their organs to get some money. Just save the audience from this myth of true sportsmanship only, and no doping and chemical tricks and all that. Tell the audience the truth, let athletes choose freely. And if then the audience is so horny for sensation and gladiator games on TV so that they make it still profitable for companies to found millions-heavy treaties with athletes, then the audience gets what it deserves. It's as stupid audience then, but getting intellectually damaged is part of modern TV world anyway.

Legalising doping also would dry out the criminal industry and its profits behind the chemical agents, the involved doctors getting rich by bribery, and so on.

the_tyrant · 10-22-12, 04:52 PM

Man, I am so disappointed. I went to school being inspired by him, wore the bracelet for many years, and now there is evidence that Armstrong cheated?!

Onkel Neal · 10-22-12, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

They have slightly more than just "hearsay". They have witness confessions of former staff and aides, and recordings of bullying, intimidation, public character assassination - partially carried out by Armstrong himself, say witnesses.

That is hearsay. Until it reaches a court.

Sailor Steve · 10-22-12, 05:29 PM

And it will likely never reach a court. They aren't pressing criminal charges, just stripping him of everything they awarded him with. Unless he takes it to court, it probably won't happen.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,644 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	They have slightly more than just "hearsay". They have witness confessions of former staff and aides, and recordings of bullying, intimidation, public character assassination - partially carried out by Armstrong himself, say witnesses. As I said, doping and lying over it I maybe could forgive, depending on circumstances, which does not mean that I would rehabilitate him. But Armstrong's criminal actings beyond that is where he really pisses me off at the latest. However, bicycle sports is seriously bugged with doping anyway. Probably all professional sports is where gold medals are at stake and sponsoring and commercial treaties worth hundreds of thousands and millions is the reward. And doping control is always some steps behind. Lets equalize the chances for everybody, I think that is what it is about: equal chances at the starting line, comparable conditions for all. Legalize doping. People have the right to take risks, if perspectives are worth for them to risk their health and life for it, so be it - it's not as if they would die by starvation if they do not sell their organs to get some money. Just save the audience from this myth of true sportsmanship only, and no doping and chemical tricks and all that. Tell the audience the truth, let athletes choose freely. And if then the audience is so horny for sensation and gladiator games on TV so that they make it still profitable for companies to found millions-heavy treaties with athletes, then the audience gets what it deserves. It's as stupid audience then, but getting intellectually damaged is part of modern TV world anyway. Legalising doping also would dry out the criminal industry and its profits behind the chemical agents, the involved doctors getting rich by bribery, and so on. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Man, I am so disappointed. I went to school being inspired by him, wore the bracelet for many years, and now there is evidence that Armstrong cheated?! __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	And it will likely never reach a court. They aren't pressing criminal charges, just stripping him of everything they awarded him with. Unless he takes it to court, it probably won't happen. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo